Re:The Efficacy of Reddit’s 2015 Ban Examined Through Hate S...
by MrZongle2 on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @11:46AM
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Reddit isn't completely a black box: subs such as /r/undelete and /r/longtail track deleted threads, and deleted comments can be reviewed ( https://www.reddit.com/r/howto/comments/5en53l/how_to_see_de... ). Additionally, the disparity between upvotes and comments -- especially for threads upvoted far more than their peers -- can indicate when voting shenanigans are taking place.
There is not a public record to be examined and ruminated on, on the contrary it's a situation where you can go and see "oh 151,400 subscribers to fatpeoplehate, this is normal behavior", or (more likely) people who never view comments will just start to see jokes about killing the obese on their front page feed.
There's a difference between 'saving people from unpleasant speech' and providing an echo chamber to hate speech along side the company's incredibly popular other content.
I don't see the connection to antivaxxer logic, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt there?
Just to be clear I'm not advocating that we ban all 'unpleasant speech' from the internet, but I do think siloing it off so you really have to be looking for it works, and that there's significant evidence to back that up.
In reddit's case in particular, many of the banned subreddits were using smart tactics like brigading and vote manipulation to amplify their numbers, and push the 'this is normal' message even further, although that's somewhat orthogonal to what we're arguing about.