>They've pushed battery technology further than any other manufacturer in the last decade.

Not really. They've done a lot to bring down costs by simply increasing the scale, but at the end of the day Tesla battery packs are just a bunch of standard 18650 cells that have been used for years. Panasonic, LG, and AESC are responsible for most of the advances in the actual chemistry.

And advances get funded in the long term through sales.

Gigafactory is to produce the new 2170 form factor.

The car and engine were just being invented in Daimlers time. Both batteries and cars have over a 100 years of work before Telsa was stated.

They use lithium batteries. You could even buy the same types of cells on amazon that Telsa uses, 18650.

>>You could even buy the same types of cells on amazon that Telsa uses, 18650.

This is a lot like saying you can buy the same food resources that go into world class restaurants. Technically true, yes. But does not diminish the accomplishments of Tesla in the least.

Exactly, just like that uninventive louse they are named after. Wires? Existed before. Magnets? Long history. Rotating fields? Over 75 years old at that point. All he did was come up with a winding pattern. Pfft, big deal.

We didn't point out tires as the revolutionary new Telsa addition to the stack. Wires and magnets are irrelevant. Batteries and cars are the items Telsa claims to revolutionize.

It's spelled Tesla, not Telsa.

As for the impact of Tesla, wait a few more years, then it'll be clearer to see.

Not sure what my iPhone is thinking with Telsa.

If Tesla folds in a few years everyone will just point at Leafs and whatever else is out saying look Tesla was the one who started this.

Tesla fans will say it either way.

> "If Tesla folds in a few years everyone will just point at Leafs and whatever else is out saying look Tesla was the one who started this.

Tesla fans will say it either way."

Why do you think that is?

Show me a couple examples where Tesla has invented something new or become the market leader without outside help. Meaning if you say home battery market I'd argue Panasonic is the leader.

I'll do so after you answer my earlier question, why do you think people are fans of Tesla?

Not really, it would be like Tesla (world class restaurant) partnering with Blue Apron (Panasonic) to develop a world class factory to supply all of Teslas restaurants.