A modest proposal

Re:A modest proposal by mschuster91 on Saturday September 09, 2017 @06:47AM (#15206476)

YAML can go off and die in a fire... especially because it cannot transfer the data type, which JSON can: you have either an integer, a float or a string. Also some libraries want the values escaped, some not, some barf on non-alphanumeric keys... JSON is pretty much standardized across the board.

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Re:A modest proposal by callumlocke on Saturday September 09, 2017 @07:29AM (#15206586)

I use YAML all the time (for config) and the things you mention have caused no more than one minute's frustration in my life. JSON is great for serialisation, YAML for little config files that need frequent hand-editing during development.

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Re:A modest proposal by NateDad on Saturday September 09, 2017 @08:32AM (#15206778)

Yaml is terrible. The fact that there are so many optional and different ways to format things and the fact that it has significant white space means it's horrible to hand edit. I'd much rather hand edit json. At least it won't care if I accidentally use a tab instead of two spaces.

But of course toml is superior to both because it has comments and no significant white space and the comma at the end of lists is optional.

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Re:A modest proposal by nly on Saturday September 09, 2017 @08:55AM (#15206848)

> you have either an integer, a float or a string.

JSON doesn't have "integers" and "floats", it has "numbers" which are are expressed in decimal scientific notation. There's no guarantee an implementation will let you distinguish what was parsed, and the numerical precision and range of interoperable JSON is undefined.

The bottom line is JSON is a risky proposition for financial or scientific data exchange.

And before you say JSON numbers are de-facto IEEE754 doubles, bare in mind that most JSON implementations can't roundtrip them properly.[0] A symptom of everybody wanting to write a toy implementation.

[0] https://rawgit.com/miloyip/nativejson-benchmark/master/sampl...

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Re:A modest proposal by sebcat on Saturday September 09, 2017 @08:20AM (#15206749)

Here are some examples: https://github.com/cblp/yaml-sucks

TBH, common JSON implementations have their problems too. Integer size and integer/float (de-)serialization tend to be somewhat interesting at times. I've even seen implementations serializing JavaScript objects as JSON (e.g., {foo: 2} instead of {"foo": 2})

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