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Re:Zed Shaw on C++ by SkyMarshal on Thursday July 15, 2010 @11:20PM (#1520119)
Good advice generally, but what axes do Zed and Linus have to grind? Sounds like both just think C++ enables too much complexity to be worth the benefits.
Re:Zed Shaw on C++ by zedshaw on Friday July 16, 2010 @01:27AM (#1520377)
It's actually possible to make C++ nice, the Grace library is wonderful. If I ever have to C++ again I'm totally grabbing it and using it. The Grace value types and type safe format operations are just the best thing ever.

My problem though is it's not the right tool for the job. Simply having access to C level APIs doesn't instantly mean your language is awesome at making servers and operating systems. Especially if that same language can't quite figure out what the hell really happens on a copy, or during an exception, or can't make decent strings and data buffers.

Re:Zed Shaw on C++ by kaens on Friday July 16, 2010 @09:26AM (#1521045)
I figure they have the axe of "I used this for a while, and really grew to hate it when I compared it to these other things I used" to grind. Sometimes the technologies you use just make you want to get something off your chest, you know?