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Re:Leaked document: EU Presidency calls for massive internet... by dalbasal on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @12:14PM (#15184795)
Sheesh! the ECHR's phrasing is awful. ..The protection of morals?

I agree though. They haven't. Even in countries with a high regard for free speech, there are exceptions. Nor is internet censorship the end of democracy.

But, directionality is important in politics. China provides an alternative example, that breaks many of the "rules" entirely. You can have a great firewall. China does. It's doing OK. Why can't Turkey? Why can't India? Why can't the EU?

^thanks for posting, btw. I've never read it, and I'm a citizen.

^^Ok… that caveat appears 5 times, allowing the limiting of 5 different rights for almost any reason any member state decides.

This really bothers me. I wish they had left these rights out, and only included rights that they can actually agree on.

Re:Leaked document: EU Presidency calls for massive internet... by pjc50 on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @02:02PM (#15185743)
> Sheesh! the ECHR's phrasing is awful. ..The protection of morals?

That's there to allow a ban on porn. Which the US has as well, despite not having a similar clause.

Article 10 is comparatively well drafted. It's Article 8's nebulous "family life" that's the problem, with all sorts of surprising implications. It's as bad a drafting mistake as the US's 2nd amendment.