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Re:Leaked document: EU Presidency calls for massive internet... by icebraining on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @09:01AM (#15183268)
True. One wonders what Estonia, or its government, has to gain from this, though.
Re:Leaked document: EU Presidency calls for massive internet... by andy_ppp on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @09:04AM (#15183286)
It's the same thing all autocrats want which is to consolidate their power while protecting the little people from themselves.

I can see where they are coming from though; I'm pretty sure the investigations of Internet usage that turn up on politicians desks contain pretty disconcerting information about the human condition.

Re:Leaked document: EU Presidency calls for massive internet... by icebraining on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @09:13AM (#15183355)
This seems to be focused on copyright, not "protecting the little people from themselves." I find a financial reason more likely to be behind this push.
Re:Leaked document: EU Presidency calls for massive internet... by andy_ppp on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @09:41AM (#15183562)
Yes after finding and reading the document (TFA was hosed) I have totally misunderstood it's content; maybe a better headline including the word copyright would help.
Re:Leaked document: EU Presidency calls for massive internet... by matt4077 on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @02:19PM (#15185876)
Thank you for admitting the misunderstanding.

It's really dangerous to go around calling democratically elected governments "autocratic". These people really do try, and there's really no indication that any government except maybe Hungary is bent on perpetuating their power. Calling them names just removes any incentives for anybody to do well: Why bother, if you're just going to be called an incompetent autocrat anyway?

Re:Leaked document: EU Presidency calls for massive internet... by RobertoG on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @11:11AM (#15184296)
That is what I would like to see leaked. How exactly this kind of thing start.

Who have the first conversation that we finally see as "the Estonia government want x". The same I would like to know about the free trade agreements.

Re:Leaked document: EU Presidency calls for massive internet... by nthcolumn on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @10:58AM (#15184179)
e-Stonia has e-Residency, and various other internet-based shenanigans. You can get an e-passport, set up business, get residency, travel documents, online, I think. Just visit your local embassy with proof of id. They are selling themselves as a digital destination/economy. Russia occasionally does massive DDoS there. so ymmv. Not sure how that relates though just surprised it was them. Maybe they are leaking it because they want it nipped in the bud.
Re:Leaked document: EU Presidency calls for massive internet... by forapurpose on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @11:48AM (#15184565)
> One wonders what Estonia, or its government, has to gain from this, though.

As a guess, it's due to the threat to Estonia from Russia, which includes Russian cyber attacks and propaganda. Russia has used propaganda operations very effectively in Europe and the U.S. If the U.S. has trouble protecting itself, imagine Estonia's situation.

In response to the same issue, earlier this year (IIRC) I read about a similar call for government oversight of Internet publication by someone high in the UK government (but I didn't hear about it again after that).

Re:Leaked document: EU Presidency calls for massive internet... by pyoung on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @03:00PM (#15186208)
This seems like the most plausible explanation. I recently read an article[1] regarding Ukraine's struggle against Russian propaganda.

[1] http://www.npr.org/2017/08/21/544952989/rough-translation-wh...

Re:Leaked document: EU Presidency calls for massive internet... by eveningcoffee on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @03:42PM (#15186537)
It looks like a copyright industry lobby. So most probably somebody at some level got paid.