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Re:Divorce and Occupation by lotsofpulp on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @02:00PM (#15177590)
I would posit that a part of agreeing includes, subconsciously and consciously, evaluating what the other party is bringing to the table and if you're willing "pay" for it by agreeing. For something as important as financial (translating into physical in today's world) security, I would think that having a partner that makes a decent amount of money and has a secure income stream automatically makes you likelier to agree with them (or compromise, or be willing to do something you might not want to normally).
Re:Divorce and Occupation by humanrebar on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @03:49PM (#15178539)
Approaching a marriage with a "what am I getting out of this" attitude seems like the opposite of agreeability.
Re:Divorce and Occupation by i_cant_speel on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @04:44PM (#15178959)
I mean, when it comes down to it, most people are getting married because they are getting something out of it. Otherwise, why would would people get married? It just so happens that what people want out of it is often mutually beneficial to the couple.
Re:Divorce and Occupation by humanrebar on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @05:46PM (#15179380)
I think approaching a marriage with a utilitarian attitude actually makes less sense since there are inevitably stretches where one partner feels like they are getting a raw deal. Say, a partner gets cancer. Or you have your fifth miscarriage.

A healthy marriage is more than the sum of its parts. Part of the point of a marriage is commitment even when you cannot offer as much back, whether due to personal foible or catastrophe. Or even when the spouse gets all those promotions and could conceivably "upgrade".

Re:Divorce and Occupation by whipoodle on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @08:31AM (#15183072)
Very noble. But over time, if either party is not getting what they need, that will start to become a problem.
Re:Divorce and Occupation by dsfyu404ed on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @02:30PM (#15177883)
>what the other party is bringing to the table

People like to forget that the perceived value of these pros/cons brought to the table varies from person to person.

Re:Divorce and Occupation by watwut on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @02:32PM (#15177903)
Which is one of reasons why being stay at home wife is shitty situation. Regardless of whether this expectation comes from her, the partner or both.
Re:Divorce and Occupation by needz on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @03:45PM (#15178501)
Some may consider it to be a bad situation. No need to shame individuals that find fulfillment in managing a home for their loving family.
Re:Divorce and Occupation by watwut on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @04:33PM (#15178871)
I mean, sure, but I did not shamed anybody.

The perception in parent is not good in long term. If you feel the need to agree, basically because you perceive partner to 'do the big important thing' while you perceive yourself to do 'just a small less important things' then agreements might be pleasant for partner for a while, but it will cost. It will be hit for your self regard, ressentement and unappreciation will build up over time and that will affect everything. Even worst if partner believes so.

Real life is not romantic familly movie. It just does not work in such simplistic idyllic way.

Definitely not when motivation for roles split is the wish that partner agrees with you more often - due to partner perceiving herself as giving less. That is parents iterpretation, not mine.

Re:Divorce and Occupation by needz on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @04:44PM (#15178955)
Your original statement that being a stay at home wife was a "shitty situation" was a blanket statement with no qualifications. Thank you for clarifying the exact conditions of what you consider a raw deal.

I want to add that, at least in my opinion, managing a home is no less important than providing the means to do so if both partners are gratified by the resulting homelife.

Re:Divorce and Occupation by watwut on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @06:59AM (#15182660)
I find that shitty situation in moder world in general too, yes. There are multiple factors that make it depressive situation - the period while moms stay home with child is considered risk factor for alcoholism for a reason. I haven't seen much gratification inreal world either, where it was done, more like unhappiness and depression in situation where you are supposed to be happy and not supposed to complain.

I dunno. Guys who work long hours and are never home tend to talk about gratifying home life waaay more often then women who stay at home while children were small.

You don't hear such romantic odes on it even from stay at home moms who actually found a way to be content. And when you mention negatives of that lifestyle, they don't get offended about hearing them like workoholic dudes apparently get offended (at least rush to downvote).

Re:Divorce and Occupation by Stronico on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @03:57PM (#15178595)
Not necessarily - specialization is awesome, and much, much less needs to be negotiated.