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Re:At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics... by TeMPOraL on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @10:24AM (#15175466)
But maybe you voted for him because you thought he's just purposefully saying stupid shit and none of that is serious, because you thought he won't get elected anyway, and this is a good way of expressing your disappointment with the US politics in general?

Or maybe you didn't vote for, but voted against (I hear some studies say this is the primary way people vote, btw.)?

Or maybe you had some other reason? I could invent plenty more. The point being, judging someone by the sole data point of their choice in the voting booth, without knowing reasons for it, is one of the most stupid kind of thinking imaginable. In fact, in less emotionally charged contexts, people generally don't show that kind of stupidity.

Re:At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics... by CalChris on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @10:38AM (#15175616)
judging someone by the sole data point of their choice in the voting booth, without knowing reasons for it, is one of the most stupid kind of thinking imaginable

I'd call that holding them accountable and I only know how they voted because they told me. Also, I'd put hating people for the color of their skin, the sexuality, their religion, ... as much much stupider.

Re:At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics... by TeMPOraL on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @10:54AM (#15175797)
> I'd call that holding them accountable

You only get to do that after you understand their reasons, which you can then judge.

> and I only know how they voted because they told me

It doesn't work like that. People don't generally run around, telling everyone who they voted for. It usually comes up in conversations, where the person who divulges their choice don't expect to get hated for it.

> Also, I'd put hating people for the color of their skin, the sexuality, their religion, ... as much much stupider.

I agree with that (maybe not with the much much part, because to me it seems to be a similar kind of stupidity; different flavours of the same bug in thinking). This doesn't invalidate my point though. People should not do either of those things.

Re:At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics... by CalChris on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @11:06AM (#15175904)
Actually it does work like that.

Your conversation example is basically saying that even understanding your reasons that I'm supposed to give you a pass because ... because what?

As for stupider, the color of your skin or your sexuality aren't choices. Whether you voted for Trump is. Holding someone accountable for their choices isn't stupid. Hating them for their race, sexuality, ... is.

Your equivocation isn't getting anywhere.

Re:At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics... by TeMPOraL on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @12:50PM (#15176916)
My point is that judging a person - a sophisticated individual with complex life history and embedded in equally complex environment - by just few bits of information, is a very stupid thing to do in general. There are situations in which you have no other choice, when few bits is all you have to go on and you need to make some decision. But those situations are very rare. In a typical case, such evaluation is just irrational - few bits are not enough to describe a person in any useful way.
Re:At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics... by CalChris on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @01:09PM (#15177097)
At what point do you judge a person because your litany of examples isn't making any sense. All I'm seeing here is an attempt at equivocation.
Re:At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics... by TeMPOraL on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @03:27AM (#15181827)
I don't?

I judge actions, in context, but I avoid doing even that if I don't know a lot about the actions and the context.

Re:At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics... by CalChris on Thursday September 07, 2017 @01:09AM (#15189263)
> maybe not with the much much part, because to me it seems to be a similar kind of stupidity;

Yes, you do. This is equivocation.