I find a lot of irony here.

First of all, you are associating conservative beliefs with the trades. That's exactly the sort of thing that is being brought up here - you're effectively saying that the left claims white collar jobs, particularly those in tech, and that anyone who doesn't fit that mold shouldn't even bother.

Secondly, you're implying that welding is a lower-status field. Nothing could be further from the truth - of the two people that I know that became welders after high school, one is now an underwater welder working on offshore oil platforms and the other has specialized in heavy industrial stuff. Both of them make more than any developer I know, including myself.

> Aren't these the same sort that will moan ceaselessly about the ludicrousness of "safe spaces" and "snowflakes"?

One of the distinguishing characteristics of those on the right is the importance of equal application of the rules.

I don't think I implied that at all. If you felt that way, you might be revealing your own cognitive biases. I don't think any form of labor is morally superior to anything else, mainly because I disagree with the whole concept of the labor system in general, but I disgress.

My point was that you can't denigrate people asking to share their opinion peacefully and without verbal assault, ie a "safe space", while simultaneously complaining that your viewpoints aren't allowed to be shared peacefully and without verbal assault.

Which, btw, I believe is a load of bull. I've been party to multitudes of political conversations in the workplace and a negligibly tiny percentage of them have I seen actually get out of control. You may feel that your viewpoints aren't aligned with the culture, but that's my entire point. You have no reasonable expectation to force the culture to do anything, leading back to my point of I wouldn't go to to work at, say, an oil rig with the expectation of my political culture aligning with theirs.

And before you begin, I'm not saying anything against people who work on rigs. I am saying that there is evidence that it overall is a right leaning culture.

> I hear welding is an in-demand industry and I bet they'll find more receptivity to their viewpoints there.

Nice job making sweeping generalizations about an entire industry. If this type of bigotry were based on skin color, we'd call it racism.

Its not bigotry. Its demography. Bigotry would be me, upon hearing someone is a welder, asking them why they voted for Trump. Demography is the realization that welders work nationwide, multitudes in rural areas, multitudes in traditionally conservative industries such as oil and gas, and therefore a person is much more likely to find people who share political culture than in an industry that is clustered in major coastal cities.

You just don't know what you are talking about with your guesses and assumptions about the industry. Welding has a lot of union members. Union members traditionally voting for liberal politicians.

> multitudes in rural areas,

Where are you getting that stat? Most of the big construction projects are near urban areas. And for the remote jobs they are usually bringing people in, not hiring locals who generally aren't qualified for the work. Some welders do a lot of travel.

https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=Welding&utm_medium=cpc&utm_sou...

> therefore a person is much more likely to find people who share political culture

If you really want to better understand the mix of political views in that industry, join a welding forum and go to the "off-topic, politics welcome" board and you'll see just as many people complaining about illegal immigrants as you will people correcting the misconceptions about immigrants. Trump? Plenty of Trump supporters on welding forums, but just as many people there predicting buyer's remorse and complaining about how Trump is an awful president. The shared political culture that you are imagining doesn't exist.

If you want a softer term, it's certainly uninformed prejudice. You made a guess about the political leanings of an industry based on your stereotype of a working class person and you were wrong. That's ok, but don't dig yourself even deeper by going into greater detail about your wrong assumptions.

> I hear welding is an in-demand industry and I bet they'll find more receptivity to their viewpoints there.

I know what point you're trying to make here, and it's true that there may be more receptivity, but welders are more likely to be, say, pro union than your run of the mill SV bro.

Your point about the "safe spaces" is hilarious!

Yes, I was mostly being flippant there. I've known several welders and iron workers and they tend to mostly be apolitical and when they have opinions they're a fair mix of both left and right.

But welders is what came to mind first when I was thinking of "stereotypically right wing jobs". Whoops.

lol. While I get your point, I would say it's not quite true. At least in Canada. Source: father's a 2nd-generation pipe fitter at a large refinery. The guys that work those kinds of rough jobs tend to be a bit more rough around the edges, but tend to support more left-wing policies. They just feel the tax bite more than people like us who can take a "work from home" day, because they have to put a lot of themselves into their work every day. But most union-member tradespersons tend to support our public healthcare, public works, view the company's motives with skepticism, and have an arguably higher degree of respect for human life than a 3rd-generation white collar worker. (They need to, because their coworkers can die if they don't)

But like I said, that's in Canada. I can't speak for the US.

I don't think you understand the conservative objection to 'safe spaces', or else you are intentionally misinterpreting. The problem with 'safe spaces' is precisely that they hinder free discourse and mutual interaction between people with differing opinions, not that they prevent people's feelings from getting hurt. You don't get to redefine the concept.