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Re:“Google: it is time to return to not being evil” by freedomben on Monday September 04, 2017 @07:01PM (#15171372)
I respectfully disagree that "we the general public" don't really care about a company's size. I know a lot of people who will not adopt an app or product until the company has proven and/or established itself in the market. I think this describes a lot of Apple users who won't adopt new products until Apple gets in the game (the Apple watch being a recent example). A lot of people want a seamless and connected experience, and you have to be a massive player in order to provide that in a lot of cases.
Re:“Google: it is time to return to not being evil” by deadowl on Monday September 04, 2017 @10:05PM (#15172022)
And the XMPP Federation couldn't provide that ideal?
Re:“Google: it is time to return to not being evil” by themacguffinman on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @02:52AM (#15173027)
Of course it couldn't. Messaging was moving very rapidly with new features like stickers, reactions, expiring messages, phone number IDs, SMS fallback, stories, bots...and all of this had to be presented a very integrated and user-friendly package. You simply can't move that fast (or move much at all) with a huge standard like XMPP with 20 different clients that barely change.

Not to mention that in this capitalist society, messaging services are incentivized to grow at all cost because user-base is the best fuel for monetization. Holding onto XMPP federation like Google did in XMPP's final years of relevancy would be suicide; you would be helping your competitors while gaining nothing.

Re:“Google: it is time to return to not being evil” by Zhyl on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @03:21AM (#15173127)
But by that same token, could it be possible for a new standard which incorporates all those features to become viable when the messaging space has stabalised?