“Google: it is time to return to not being evil”

Re:“Google: it is time to return to not being evil” by fyrstenberg on Monday September 04, 2017 @05:17PM (#15170904)

I discovered this as well. Not only, they're faking it with the new YouTube design as well. I had to set my user agent to Chrome to get the new dark theme (it may have changed later).

I did try different user-agents using AgentX[1] and with Edge UA they said the new look wouldn't work (or in effect something along those lines), so there is not much actual feature check going on. Only setting Chrome would give me all features.

Google is doing what Microsoft did 10 years ago - it didn't go so well for Microsoft when people eventually caught on.

1: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/agentx/

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Re:“Google: it is time to return to not being evil” by shmerl on Monday September 04, 2017 @06:09PM (#15171145)

I'm using Youtube dark theme with Firefox just fine. But I had to jump through some hoops in their site settings, though without spoofing the user agent.

What doesn't work at all is their Hangounts, because Google are doing something fishy with WebRTC there:

Hangouts video and voice calls don’t work in Firefox for now. Google is working to fix this as soon as possible. Until then, use a different supported browser.

Not to mention the complete mess they caused to XMPP federation by killing Google Talk.

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Re:“Google: it is time to return to not being evil” by vram22 on Monday September 04, 2017 @07:13PM (#15171420)

Leaving aside XMPP federation (though that is a good point), killing Google Talk itself was a bad idea. It was very good and useful, both the text chat and the voice calls feature, and Hangouts, its replacement, sucks heavily.

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Re:“Google: it is time to return to not being evil” by shmerl on Monday September 04, 2017 @08:28PM (#15171704)

I'm using neither, but for me the worst thing were cut off XMPP contacts who were on Google Talk (and later Hangouts). I was reaching them through XMPP federation, and Google really messed things up.

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Re:“Google: it is time to return to not being evil” by ryukafalz on Monday September 04, 2017 @10:11PM (#15172041)

Yeah, it was pretty bad - contacts who were "upgraded" to Hangouts just had me disappear from their contact lists, and on my end it looked like they were constantly in "away" status but they never got my messages.

With no announcement of any of this ahead of time.

Complete mess.

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Re:“Google: it is time to return to not being evil” by infogulch on Monday September 04, 2017 @05:39PM (#15171017)

These things have led me back to try Firefox again for the first time in years and nightly (57) is extremely snappy, even compared to chrome. I'm very very pleased.

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Re:“Google: it is time to return to not being evil” by talideon on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @02:55AM (#15173040)

Regarding the dark theme, could that be down to the version of FF? I'm running 55.0.2, and didn't have to do anything except toggle a switch in the settings to get it.

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Re:“Google: it is time to return to not being evil” by gwenzek on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @04:26AM (#15182032)

Do you have a user-agent addon that works on mobile?

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