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Re:Physicists want to rebuild quantum theory from scratch by vitus on Sunday September 03, 2017 @08:11PM (#15164727)
Yes, Shannon explicitly stated in Mathematical Theory of Communication that the general form was the same as that in statistical mechanics:

"The form of H will be recognized as that of entropy as defined in certain formulations of statistical mechanics where p_i is the probability of a system being in cell i of its phase space. H is then, for example, the H in Boltzmann’s famous H theorem."

where the general form was H = -K\sum p_i * log(p_i)

IIRC, this form is the only kind with the following two properties:

- chain rule -- H(X,Y) = H(X) + H(Y|X)

- maximized for the uniform distribution.

Re:Physicists want to rebuild quantum theory from scratch by f00_ on Monday September 04, 2017 @04:23AM (#15166605)
Could you explain KL divergence and/or cross entropy to me?

from wikipedia: "In mathematical statistics, the Kullback–Leibler divergence is a measure of how one probability distribution diverges from a second expected probability distribution"

Kullback-Leibler divergence is used a lot in the reinforcement learning setting

"In information theory, the cross entropy between two probability distributions p and q over the same underlying set of events measures the average number of bits needed to identify an event drawn from the set"

Cross Entropy is used as a cost function in neural networks rather than least squares http://neuralnetworksanddeeplearning.com/chap3.html#the_cros...

Re:Physicists want to rebuild quantum theory from scratch by f00_ on Monday September 04, 2017 @02:27PM (#15169963)
Also, have you read Norbert Weiner's Cybernetics? I think he had parts of information theory there before Shannon

I want to understand his work on random processes too, have just kind of scanned the book and have tried to upgrade my calculus