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Re:Why I Quit Oracle (2010) by quuquuquu on Sunday September 03, 2017 @06:18PM (#15164276)
I worked at Oracle until very recently.

They are a rent-seeking, lawsuit-heavy cancer upon this Earth.

Oracle routinely sues its own employees.

Oracle routinely moves to stamp out innovation.

Oracle's stock price has increased over the past decade, but only from acquisition and price-gouging large corporations and agencies.

It is a racket. Working at Oracle is the antithesis of creating fun and useful software for everyone's gain.

Re:Why I Quit Oracle (2010) by smegel on Sunday September 03, 2017 @06:42PM (#15164384)
> Oracle routinely sues its own employees.

For what?

Re:Why I Quit Oracle (2010) by saghm on Sunday September 03, 2017 @06:51PM (#15164425)
For winning arbitration (the company-mandated way to solve disputes) against them, for instance:

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/01/26/oracle_sues_employe...

Re:Why I Quit Oracle (2010) by quuquuquu on Sunday September 03, 2017 @08:07PM (#15164718)
In addition, Svetlana Blackburn was literally fired for refusing her managers' orders to cook the books on Oracle's cloud revenue.

Management orders her to cook the books, at a public company!!

She's fired, she sues.

Oracle counter sues.

How is this ethical?

Re:Why I Quit Oracle (2010) by geofft on Sunday September 03, 2017 @07:29PM (#15164579)
Oh wow, and then they lost that petition in court. https://regmedia.co.uk/2017/08/22/oracle_wilson_decision.pdf

I can't imagine this was a good use of the company's lawyers' time (although it was probably good from the lawyers' perspective).

Re:Why I Quit Oracle (2010) by quuquuquu on Sunday September 03, 2017 @08:05PM (#15164708)
Larry has so much money and so many lawyers, this is his way of reassuring himself that his legal team isn't just lazing around.

"get out there and dig in the dumpster for gold nuggets!"

Re:Why I Quit Oracle (2010) by oraguy on Monday September 04, 2017 @12:06AM (#15165651)
I am sure there are many stories where Oracle sues its employees. Take a look at this one for example.

* http://bangaloremirror.indiatimes.com/bangalore/cover-story/...

* http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-karnatak...

TL;DR - An employee found fire safety violations in one of its Bangalore offices. He reported the violations internally. Nobody addressed the violations. He reported the violations to the cops. Oracle sacked and sued the employee.

Re:Why I Quit Oracle (2010) by quuquuquu on Monday September 04, 2017 @01:54AM (#15166005)
Pitiful.

Oracle India was even worse than Oracle. I truly feel terribly for the exploited workes there. You all had it way way worse than us.

Re:Why I Quit Oracle (2010) by samoright on Monday September 04, 2017 @02:06AM (#15166047)
Can you share some anecdotes that make you think that Oracle India had it way way worse than the Oracle US counterparts?
Re:Why I Quit Oracle (2010) by quuquuquu on Monday September 04, 2017 @11:45AM (#15168965)
Not sure why you are being down voted. It is worth knowing.

Besides the poor hours of course, I can remember the following:

1) Unpaid overtime. 2) Spiteful, political management. 3) Revolving door of employees due to firings. 4) Replacements were not trained, so nobody was set up for success and growth.

These are just things I remember experiencing second or third-hand, but so much of the grunt work and broken processes flowed to my counterparts in Oracle India.

Their reward for trying to make sense of everything was being fired, regardless of performance.

Oracle US employees were usually spared a few years of runway until being laid off, regardless of performance.

Re:Why I Quit Oracle (2010) by jessaustin on Sunday September 03, 2017 @06:57PM (#15164458)
For posting the dirty laundry anonymously on HN?
Re:Why I Quit Oracle (2010) by quuquuquu on Sunday September 03, 2017 @08:02PM (#15164698)
>anonymously

With enough effort, I'm certain someone could out me. I'm not protecting my connection or device ID in any way.

>dirty laundry

All of the things I've cited about Oracle are public knowledge. If an employee of Monsanto says that RoundUp causes cancer, is that dirty laundry, or stating a scientifically proven fact?

Re:Why I Quit Oracle (2010) by 0xbear on Sunday September 03, 2017 @08:25PM (#15164778)
It's not a "scientifically proven fact".
Re:Why I Quit Oracle (2010) by xenophonf on Sunday September 03, 2017 @08:42PM (#15164830)
0xbear, it helps to cite the relevant scientific research:

http://www.who.int/foodsafety/jmprsummary2016.pdf?ua=1

https://www.iarc.fr/en/media-centre/iarcnews/pdf/MonographVo...

The short version is that glyphosate is unlikely to cause cancer in consumers or farm workers:

https://www.wired.com/2016/05/monsantos-roundup-herbicide-ca...

Re:Why I Quit Oracle (2010) by quuquuquu on Sunday September 03, 2017 @09:23PM (#15164992)
Why is there a class action lawsuit on TV telling me that people who are exposed to it have higher rates of cancer?
Re:Why I Quit Oracle (2010) by dmoy on Sunday September 03, 2017 @09:59PM (#15165152)
Because, like Oracle lawyers coincidentally enough, they're probably fishing for a settlement.
Re:Why I Quit Oracle (2010) by 0xbear on Sunday September 03, 2017 @10:14PM (#15165196)
Protip: don't believe everything you see on TV.
Re:Why I Quit Oracle (2010) by quuquuquu on Monday September 04, 2017 @01:52AM (#15165998)
Allow me to remix my earlier statements:

While not scientifically proven, the State of California currently classifies RoundUp as "probably carcinogenic".

More than 800 cancer patients have joined the lawsuit against Monsanto.

I don't know about you, but being exposed, for years and years, to something that requires a mask to administer. Hmmm gonna have to go with "more cancerous than a banana".

Re:Why I Quit Oracle (2010) by 0xbear on Monday September 04, 2017 @02:21AM (#15166109)
Lots of things are more cancerous than a banana. Fries and steak for example. And sure, if you're spraying it without the proper precautions for "years and years", it probably will negatively affect your health, though even there the cancer link is not clear.

But in spite of tons of research all over the world no one was able to establish a causal link for dietary glyphosate residue. The herbicides before glyphosate were truly vile, look it up. Glyphosate is very targeted for plants, and based on its mechanism of action it's unlikely to be toxic or carcinogenic in humans or animals, including even fish and invertebrates.

So my money is on State of California being full of shit as usual. Put simply, between glyphosate and the alternatives it's not even a question that glyphosate is much safer.

Re:Why I Quit Oracle (2010) by quuquuquu on Monday September 04, 2017 @12:02PM (#15169071)
I agree with you that we don't have the evidence for dietary exposure. My polemic generalization in my earlier comment didn't make it clear that I was only speaking about "commercial and heavy-residential use", that is to say, people whose job or hobby it is to spray RoundUp for hundreds or even thousands of hours a year.

Much like how you shouldn't weld without a mask, you shouldn't spray RoundUp without a mask. But the difference is that things that can be inhaled are very tricky compared to things that are just bright.

So even the right precautions can still lead to problems.

If someone who worked at a fiberglass plant told me not to breathe in fiberglass splinters, I would believe them, regardless of what the research has confirmed.