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Re:To Understand Rising Inequality, Consider Janitors by frgtpsswrdlame on Sunday September 03, 2017 @05:44PM (#15164106)
Why must we 'fully' trust the state? We just have to trust it more than the markets.
Re:To Understand Rising Inequality, Consider Janitors by mnglkhn2 on Sunday September 03, 2017 @11:06PM (#15165426)
We first need to know that the current taxes are fully spent on the right things and that the "pork" spending is not actually larger than the amount needed to satisfy the needs expressed by the current movement.
Re:To Understand Rising Inequality, Consider Janitors by ams6110 on Sunday September 03, 2017 @08:04PM (#15164702)
States have killed many more people than markets have.
Re:To Understand Rising Inequality, Consider Janitors by chipotle_coyote on Sunday September 03, 2017 @09:46PM (#15165096)
This strikes me as too facile to be particularly useful.

First, it's much easier to get a rough idea of how many people states have killed than markets, to be sure. But many wars are fought and nations are conquered (and, for that matter, created) for market-driven reasons: oil, tea, diamonds, slaves, to name a few egregious examples off the top of my head. Millions of people have died throughout history that would not have if states were not acting to protect, expand, or create markets.

Second, while it's probably harder to get a rough idea of how many people states have saved than markets have, the number is not inconsequential. I certainly wouldn't suggest states are forces for unrequited good--there's copious valid criticism of them across the political spectrum--but I would suggest that they're hardly forces for unrequited evil, either.