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Re:“Oracle laid off all Solaris tech staff in a classic sile... by acdha on Sunday September 03, 2017 @10:37AM (#15161627)
I think that would very much depend on when: Sun's primary problem was bad management so an early 2000s change might have enabled them to compete against Red Hat — treat usability as a concern, wrap all of those cool kernel features in a non-joke userland, sell support, etc. Sitting out package management for a couple decades really hurt them and that's a relatively cheap engineering commitment. It's interesting to imagine ZFS and zones bringing containerization a decade earlier, but every time they came up the reaction from most of the sysadmins I knew was roughly “call me back when they have apt/yum”.

A coworker who used to work at Sun maintains that they really needed to go private to avoid years of chaos from waves of layoffs when they were profitable but not enough to satisfy Wall Street.

Re:“Oracle laid off all Solaris tech staff in a classic sile... by karlkatzke on Sunday September 03, 2017 @09:47PM (#15165101)
> It's interesting to imagine ZFS and zones bringing containerization a decade earlier

I have a legacy production environment that is Debian based OpenVZ and Nexenta. Containers and ZFS were in heavy use a decade ago, the marketing just wasn't there to make it "cool" like Docker.

Sun was great at many things, but they were never great at marketing.

Re:“Oracle laid off all Solaris tech staff in a classic sile... by wowtip on Monday September 04, 2017 @05:08AM (#15166801)
> A coworker who used to work at Sun maintains that they really needed to go private to avoid years of chaos from waves of layoffs when they were profitable but not enough to satisfy Wall Street.

Short sighted capitalism is imho a threat to society. But finding an acceptable solution is not going to be easy.

Re:“Oracle laid off all Solaris tech staff in a classic sile... by sgift on Monday September 04, 2017 @02:39AM (#15166197)
> A coworker who used to work at Sun maintains that they really needed to go private to avoid years of chaos from waves of layoffs when they were profitable but not enough to satisfy Wall Street.

It still surprises me that Dell was able to somehow go private before Wall Street killed them too.

Re:“Oracle laid off all Solaris tech staff in a classic sile... by davidgerard on Monday September 04, 2017 @03:55AM (#15166494)
Zones were way cool. Solaris 10 was on the right path and I actually quite liked it. (Ran it in earnest on various SPARC and x64 kit.)
Re:“Oracle laid off all Solaris tech staff in a classic sile... by Annatar on Monday September 04, 2017 @10:34AM (#15168461)
Zones are still cool, and they live on in illumos and especially SmartOS.
Re:“Oracle laid off all Solaris tech staff in a classic sile... by ece on Monday September 04, 2017 @01:01PM (#15169440)
Joyent was definitely ahead of the game, hopefully Samsung is better at acquisitions than Oracle.