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Re:How you can contribute to Firefox 57 success by zbraniecki on Saturday September 02, 2017 @05:03PM (#15158200)
Hi Fabrice!

> At the same time I don't see the situation improving

I actually do, but as you know, I'm an optimist by nature :)

The path that could lead to Mozilla tech opening for the case you're describing may look like this:

* Fx 57 is successful * Gecko successfully transitions to be a modern Web engine with its own advantages over other engines * The new features such as Rust and leapfrogging advancements like Stylo/WebRender etc. add up to make people want to use Gecko/Servo over other engines in their products * We're successful at building a node/electron like wrapper for Gecko/Servo * The innovation begins

I don't think it's certain, and I don't know if it'll happen, but I do now that there are people tinkering with things like GeckoView and electron like wrappers, with target for next year. It's not guaranteed, but I do hope it'll happen.

Re:How you can contribute to Firefox 57 success by fabrice_d on Saturday September 02, 2017 @05:31PM (#15158316)
That's a lot of ifs... And again these are very technical aspects, not strategic/product ones.

Mozilla has been putting 110% of their effort on a Desktop browser recently. Fine, their choice, but I can't help but think that their are cornering themselves in a niche and are missing where the new tech users will be.

As you can guess, I really feel it's a shame that gecko is becoming really good, just not used in a context that matters.

Re:How you can contribute to Firefox 57 success by zbraniecki on Saturday September 02, 2017 @06:23PM (#15158543)
> That's a lot of ifs... And again these are very technical aspects, not strategic/product ones.

Correct. Lots of ifs. And on top of that, ifs from a regular engineer which means I know even less about all the factors in play than I should to predict.

> Mozilla has been putting 110% of their effort on a Desktop browser recently. Fine, their choice, but I can't help but think that their are cornering themselves in a niche and are missing where the new tech users will be.

My personal take is that we have to start somewhere. We can try to come up with a completely new technology, and we're trying to - see Servo. We can make Gecko the best web engine on the planet. Or we can try to build amazing products on top of an ok engine.

I believe we have to start somewhere, and stating by bringing Gecko to excellence is not a bad choice.

> As you can guess, I really feel it's a shame that gecko is becoming really good, just not used in a context that matters.

yeah. I know :)