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Re:Ask HN: Those making $500+/month on side projects in 2017... by pilom on Friday September 01, 2017 @11:46AM (#15149464)
I've cut my expenses and invested the extra in index funds. Currently at a nest egg of around $300k which spews off dividends of around $500/month and is currently appreciating a bit faster than that.
Re:Ask HN: Those making $500+/month on side projects in 2017... by alangibson on Friday September 01, 2017 @12:18PM (#15149839)
Are you reinvesting the dividends? If not, why?
Re:Ask HN: Those making $500+/month on side projects in 2017... by pilom on Friday September 01, 2017 @01:49PM (#15150767)
Yes I am, just used those as the metric for meeting the $500/month landmark from the title.
Re:Ask HN: Those making $500+/month on side projects in 2017... by aerovistae on Friday September 01, 2017 @11:54AM (#15149564)
Curious~ age income occupation? I'm seeking to do this as well.
Re:Ask HN: Those making $500+/month on side projects in 2017... by pilom on Friday September 01, 2017 @12:05PM (#15149681)
30, ~125k household income for two adults no kids, IT and teacher. Our income made it a little easier to get here but the $200k hole of combined student loans we started with (now fully paid off) probably counters that pretty evenly.
Re:Ask HN: Those making $500+/month on side projects in 2017... by zerr on Monday September 04, 2017 @07:20PM (#15171447)
Interesting off-topic: considering your current income (salary), do you think $200K college was worth it? I believe you could command same amount with a degree from free/state/cheap university, no?
Re:Ask HN: Those making $500+/month on side projects in 2017... by iopuy on Friday September 01, 2017 @12:21PM (#15149869)
Is there more to the story? Started with -200k and now sit on +300k with a 125k salary? House? Came into a windfall of cash in addition to salary?
Re:Ask HN: Those making $500+/month on side projects in 2017... by pilom on Friday September 01, 2017 @02:13PM (#15151026)
I'll be honest I'm glossing over some details about house refinancing and sales etc. About 40k of it was gains from a house. I'll give you that. About 75k of the 300k is investment gains. Income has remained pretty stable over that time (when I got a raise, my wife worked less or went back to school etc) and we started at that income level right out of college at 22 years old. So of the 500k, 115k is gains, so $375k is contributions/debt payment. In the 8 years since graduating that would be ~$45k/year. $125k-45k= $80k in taxes and spending per year for two people which isn't hard at all. Lived in DC for a year then moved to Denver.
Re:Ask HN: Those making $500+/month on side projects in 2017... by jajern on Friday September 01, 2017 @12:40PM (#15150081)
In a LCOL area and putting out 50% of income over 8 years would do it. FIRE people are a lot more aggressive than that.
Re:Ask HN: Those making $500+/month on side projects in 2017... by PizzaDeOntem on Friday September 01, 2017 @12:45PM (#15150140)
Think he meant 125k combined between him and his partner.
Re:Ask HN: Those making $500+/month on side projects in 2017... by aerovistae on Friday September 01, 2017 @12:07PM (#15149696)
Nice to hear, I guess I'm on track. Thanks for the open answer!
Re:Ask HN: Those making $500+/month on side projects in 2017... by stinley on Friday September 01, 2017 @12:29PM (#15149959)
Did you get to that size of nest egg through investing?
Re:Ask HN: Those making $500+/month on side projects in 2017... by pilom on Friday September 01, 2017 @02:00PM (#15150895)
At this point, of the 300k, about 225k is from contributions (savings) and 75k is from gains. The bigger the account gets though, the bigger a percentage the gains will be as the account grows faster than my annual income does.
Re:Ask HN: Those making $500+/month on side projects in 2017... by stinley on Friday September 01, 2017 @03:25PM (#15151676)
Nice, that's awesome you were able to save so much. What expenses did you cut to be able to save like that? What are your non-negotiable expenses?
Re:Ask HN: Those making $500+/month on side projects in 2017... by redsn0w422 on Friday September 01, 2017 @12:13PM (#15149783)
Which index funds, if you don't mind me asking?
Re:Ask HN: Those making $500+/month on side projects in 2017... by pilom on Friday September 01, 2017 @01:55PM (#15150841)
Vanguard mutual funds. About an 80/20 split between VTSAX (Stocks) and VBTLX (Bonds). Nice and simple. I re-balance with monthly contributions.
Re:Ask HN: Those making $500+/month on side projects in 2017... by joeax on Friday September 01, 2017 @12:46PM (#15150148)
I'm not the OP but I have some investments in high-yield ETFs. These are worth a look: REM, YYY, LVL, ROOF
Re:Ask HN: Those making $500+/month on side projects in 2017... by 0xbear on Friday September 01, 2017 @02:13PM (#15151027)
You aren't investing it well then. This year S&P has gone up something like 20% (thank you, Donald). From 300k that would net you 60k which is 5K/mo. All you'd need to do is rebalance into VOO.
Re:Ask HN: Those making $500+/month on side projects in 2017... by shoo on Saturday September 02, 2017 @10:22AM (#15156099)
it's not possible to decide if something was a good decision or not by looking at realised performance over a short time scale.

having a portfolio that is entirely concentrated in the S&P will have less risk adjusted expected reward than one that allocates a bit in some other buckets as well (e.g. international shares). c.f. the book "random walk down wall street".

Re:Ask HN: Those making $500+/month on side projects in 2017... by 0xbear on Saturday September 02, 2017 @02:09PM (#15157381)
It's very hard to outdo index funds. Even Warren Buffet said as much. My personal observation over the last decade confirms it. I also trade individual stocks in industries where I understand the underlying trends, and those do outperform s&p, but I'm very much aware that betting the wrong way could instantly undo those gains. Index funds are much safer.