News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Study: A universal basic income would grow the economy by antisthenes on Thursday August 31, 2017 @12:26PM (#15141423)
Good thing our society doesn't optimize for maximum absolute wealth growth in a vacuum, else we'd have 1 person with all of the country's wealth.

> If we equalise wealth, however, such that both have $4,899.13, then in 50 years Jane will have $34,816.57 and Jo will have $13,186.44, for a total wealth pool of $48,003.01

Have you considered second order effects here? What if additional wealth allows "Jo" to increase their per annum return because they invest it in a business or education?

> In this sense there is hence a direct tradeoff between economic growth and wealth transfers from richer to poorer in the long term (all other things being equal).

I have a BA in Economics as well, and ceteris paribus models stop being useful past the 2nd year of study. I don't think they're ever useful except to illustrate the most basic concepts to freshmen and laymen. When you apply such models to the real world, you end up with a situation I described in the 1st paragraph.

In this case, the condition assumes that the rate of wealth creation is fixed and unalterable on a scale of 50 years. It also falsely assumes (just world fallacy) that wealth is already allocated in such a way as to belong to people with high (unalterable) wealth creation potential.

Re:Study: A universal basic income would grow the economy by logicchains on Saturday September 02, 2017 @02:13AM (#15154597)
>Good thing our society doesn't optimize for maximum absolute wealth growth in a vacuum, else we'd have 1 person with all of the country's wealth.

The person must be trading with others somehow to be gaining those 4% returns; they could only end up with all the wealth if literally nobody else saved any money. And if nobody else saved any money, there'd be no economic growth at all if not for the person with all the wealth.

>Have you considered second order effects here? What if additional wealth allows "Jo" to increase their per annum return because they invest it in a business or education?

Jo started with the same amount of wealth as Jane; he had no less opportunity to invest it in a business/education, invest it in something to increase in something that increased his investment returns, than she did.

>In this case, the condition assumes that the rate of wealth creation is fixed and unalterable on a scale of 50 years. It also falsely assumes (just world fallacy) that wealth is already allocated in such a way as to belong to people with high (unalterable) wealth creation potential.

It doesn't assume the latter, it assumes Jane and Jo started with the same amount of wealth, and shows that given this condition it will result in more wealth being allocated to the people with more wealth creation potential. Starting from the same point, Jane and Jo have equal chance to increase their ability to create wealth.