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Re:What every programmer should know about memory by scott_s on Tuesday July 13, 2010 @05:46PM (#1512884)
I maintain that to work well at abstraction level N, you need a good conceptual understanding of abstraction level N - 1. All abstractions leak, and you need to be able to handle it.
Re:What every programmer should know about memory by philwelch on Wednesday July 14, 2010 @09:02AM (#1514422)
To work really well, it also helps to understand level N+1 or N-2, respectively--either by implementing a higher level abstraction in a lower level environment, or by working on two levels at once (and thus needing to understand the level below the lower level).

For instance, you might be stuck with using C or Java and thus have to reinvent higher level abstractions through clever use of function pointers or design patterns or something--hence thinking at N+1, implementing at N, and being mindful of N-1 as you implement. Or you may be writing in Python but optimizing code bottlenecks in C, hence when writing Python (N) you have to understand the C (N-1), and when writing C (N-1) you have to understand the assembly (N-2).

Re:What every programmer should know about memory by vecter on Tuesday July 13, 2010 @07:02PM (#1513030)
So by induction, you need to learn N - 2, N - 3, ..., 2, ... 1? I wholeheartedly disagree. By that logic, why stop at transistors? Let's get down to the physics of how transistors work, or hey, atomic physics.
Re:What every programmer should know about memory by Groxx on Tuesday July 13, 2010 @07:06PM (#1513042)
Ehhh... only partially. If you need to work well at level N-1, then yes, the inductive proof works. They only mentioned knowledge about a level lower than you're working at, though.
Re:What every programmer should know about memory by vecter on Wednesday July 14, 2010 @11:04AM (#1514768)
My bad, I read it wrong.
Re:What every programmer should know about memory by dfox on Wednesday July 14, 2010 @07:53AM (#1514285)
Actually in case of transistors, it is better to understand how they really work on physics level, because many abstract models of transistor do not make sense.
Re:What every programmer should know about memory by scott_s on Tuesday July 13, 2010 @07:25PM (#1513076)
I said "a good conceptual understanding." Not a complete understanding.