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Re:Sailfish OS – Independent Mobile OS by mixedbit on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @08:25AM (#15123791)
Another truly open alternative in crowdfunding stage (I really wish it will reach its funding goal): https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/
Re:Sailfish OS – Independent Mobile OS by tom_mellior on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @09:18AM (#15124024)
Wow. On the one hand, this is really cool. On the other hand, it's 600 USD for a phone that might be delivered in a year and a half and will not be able to run Signal.
Re:Sailfish OS – Independent Mobile OS by flashdance on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @09:47AM (#15124212)
It will run debian though, which is way cooler!

Plus, you might just be able to use anbox to run signal anyways. https://anbox.io/

Re:Sailfish OS – Independent Mobile OS by subway on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @10:00AM (#15124298)
Not running Signal seems like a security feature to me. The official Signal servers, and their stance on requiring a phone number and forbidding 3rd party clients is absurd.
Re:Sailfish OS – Independent Mobile OS by aidenn0 on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @04:23PM (#15127315)
What's the alternative? iOS has a poor story for jabber support, and the network effects for jabber are poor; the gradual network onboarding of signal made it easy to capture new users, but made it federation hostile.
Re:Sailfish OS – Independent Mobile OS by subway on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @06:54PM (#15136803)
At the moment, I think Matrix is a solid contender. It's easy enough to use a public servers like matrix.org, or riot.im, or run your own.

It's far from a perfect solution, but I feel like it comes closer to the mark than Signal.

Re:Sailfish OS – Independent Mobile OS by walterbell on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @10:56AM (#15124692)
Re:Sailfish OS – Independent Mobile OS by tom_mellior on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @11:41AM (#15125027)
As far as I can tell, that doesn't have a SIM card slot, so it's not quite comparable to a mobile phone. I don't care that much about making calls, but mobile Internet access does matter in discussions about smartphones.
Re:Sailfish OS – Independent Mobile OS by Pwntastic on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @11:46AM (#15125066)
I have one. You're correct; it does not have a sim slot.
Re:Sailfish OS – Independent Mobile OS by tom_mellior on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @03:42PM (#15127032)
> 600 USD

Oh, nevermind, they take Bitcoin, which means other people paid for my new phone :-)

Re:Sailfish OS – Independent Mobile OS by nerdponx on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @09:18AM (#15124022)