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Re:AMD Threadripper 1950X Linux Benchmarks by gcp on Monday August 28, 2017 @03:29PM (#15119341)
Ah Phoronix tests. Run a lot of things, show a lot of numbers, but never worry about meaning (or correctness).

So, can someone explain the Scitkit-Learn 0.17.1 results?

Re:AMD Threadripper 1950X Linux Benchmarks by TD-Linux on Monday August 28, 2017 @03:59PM (#15119577)
At least the good thing is you can run the same benchmark locally and figure out what went wrong. Anandtech posted similarly wonky results for Chromium compiles on Threadripper, but that one isn't reproducible.
Re:AMD Threadripper 1950X Linux Benchmarks by gcp on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @04:56PM (#15127539)
I think they "explained" afterwards that they use an older version of Chromium that predates the switch to clang and spends all of it's time in the single-threaded MSVC linker. (Which immediately explains much of their results...)
Re:AMD Threadripper 1950X Linux Benchmarks by geezerjay on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @10:41AM (#15124599)
> Run a lot of things, show a lot of numbers, but never worry about meaning (or correctness).

You've just described every single benchmark article that was ever published.

Yet, Phoronix stands out among their peers as their tests are actually scientific, objective and reproducible.

Re:AMD Threadripper 1950X Linux Benchmarks by gcp on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @04:58PM (#15127549)
No, in fact many review sites delve in deeper when benchmark results don't match expectations, and those moments are usually very informative.

The result I quoted makes no real sense. It may be scientific, objective and reproducible, it's also a sign something is seriously wrong.

Re:AMD Threadripper 1950X Linux Benchmarks by auvi on Monday August 28, 2017 @03:27PM (#15119325)
Does anybody know how long it takes for a 1950X to compile the latest Linux kernel? I know that for 2xEPYC it is circa 15 seconds.
Re:AMD Threadripper 1950X Linux Benchmarks by uep on Monday August 28, 2017 @03:47PM (#15119492)
Oh, I know this! 36 seconds. I happen to have seen this on Friday.

https://twitter.com/phoronix/status/900863945296236544

Re:AMD Threadripper 1950X Linux Benchmarks by simcop2387 on Monday August 28, 2017 @03:47PM (#15119494)
In the article he says he gets it down to ~36 seconds.
Re:AMD Threadripper 1950X Linux Benchmarks by jjuhl on Monday August 28, 2017 @04:12PM (#15119687)
How things have improved. I remember my 386DX/33 with 4MB RAM + 16MB swap that took a little over 24 hours to compile a Linux kernel back in the mid-nineties ;-) Now get off my lawn kids..
Re:AMD Threadripper 1950X Linux Benchmarks by fooker on Monday August 28, 2017 @05:26PM (#15120217)
Compiled gentoo for a week a few years ago - a kid!
Re:AMD Threadripper 1950X Linux Benchmarks by srcmap on Monday August 28, 2017 @04:19PM (#15119731)
Love to see the benchmark on clean build of Android Platform (AOSP) code base.

I remember it took somewhere between 40 -minutes - 2 hours depend on system and which AOSP version to build.

Re:AMD Threadripper 1950X Linux Benchmarks by TazeTSchnitzel on Monday August 28, 2017 @05:46PM (#15120340)
Is this with Threadripper in NUMA mode or in UMA mode? I don't think the article says.

I think UMA might be the default.

Re:AMD Threadripper 1950X Linux Benchmarks by ShabbosGoy on Monday August 28, 2017 @05:59PM (#15120444)
Is Threadripper a decent buy for a workstation setup? Or is Xeon still king?
Re:AMD Threadripper 1950X Linux Benchmarks by jjuhl on Monday August 28, 2017 @06:42PM (#15120747)
Read the benchmarks. Then judge for yourself for your specific workload.
Re:AMD Threadripper 1950X Linux Benchmarks by ghettoimp on Monday August 28, 2017 @02:58PM (#15119112)
Ten pages. Bleh.
Re:AMD Threadripper 1950X Linux Benchmarks by madez on Monday August 28, 2017 @03:05PM (#15119170)
Too bad that these AMD CPU's also contain convenient capabilities through PSP to add a hardware backdoor to a computer which one cannot detect from the OS.

@Phoronix: RISC-V-based and other open processors and computers are much more interesting. Could you test and report about compatbility of open and consumer-friendly computers with linux?

Re:AMD Threadripper 1950X Linux Benchmarks by sigjuice on Monday August 28, 2017 @03:49PM (#15119503)
"RISC-V-based" does not automatically mean "open". Vendors who put RISC-V in an SoC are free to add their own PSP or ME equivalents. Also, the processor itself is a small portion of a fully functioning computer. Things like GPU, wifi, bluetooth etc are most likely going to be proprietary.
Re:AMD Threadripper 1950X Linux Benchmarks by sannee on Monday August 28, 2017 @03:12PM (#15119217)
Do you know of a RISC-V CPU suitable for desktop use? As far as I know, no one yet produced any silicon for that market.
Re:AMD Threadripper 1950X Linux Benchmarks by monocasa on Monday August 28, 2017 @03:18PM (#15119252)
Seriously, I don't know of any publicly available RISC-V silicon with even an MMU, say nothing of 'desktop' class.
Re:AMD Threadripper 1950X Linux Benchmarks by FullyFunctional on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @12:38AM (#15129766)
SiFive announced that at Hot Chips 2017 (last week): their quad+1 core is coming out early next year.

In addition to that, I expect to see some interesting announcements at the RISC-V workshop in Nov.

Patience, patience. It's likely that RISC-V adoption will happen bottom up, first deeply embedded space (like NVIDIA, who is using it internally in the GPU for managements). Next, bigger cores will also happen especially where there's no (perceived) advantage to using ARM. A standalone chip will probably come late and will likely come from China from someone looking for a way to stand out from the myriad of ARM vendors out there.

Just the idle musings of an ARM-chair analyst.

Re:AMD Threadripper 1950X Linux Benchmarks by mjevans on Monday August 28, 2017 @03:10PM (#15119200)
You say 'also' but aren't elaborating sufficiently.

It's too bad modern high-performance consumer CPUs are all paired with non-free platform services (Intel ME, AMD PSP) that provide attack vectors for organized crime and governments.

Re:AMD Threadripper 1950X Linux Benchmarks by sweep4r on Monday August 28, 2017 @04:03PM (#15119611)
Nobody cares about ME/PSP/etc. You might, but nobody will stop buying these chips just because of that.
Re:AMD Threadripper 1950X Linux Benchmarks by madez on Monday August 28, 2017 @04:26PM (#15119783)
I care, and I'm not alone. The problem and it's consequences aren't widely known outside of the tech community.