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Re:Facebook says Pages that regularly share false news won’t... by wooter on Monday August 28, 2017 @12:32PM (#15117845)
so how did Hitler rise? How did freedom of speech treat the West at the time? How did the opposite help Europe?
Re:Facebook says Pages that regularly share false news won’t... by cjslep on Monday August 28, 2017 @01:33PM (#15118426)
Read "The Coming Of The Third Reich" by Richard J Evans to see how a very liberal democracy (Weimar Republic) was undermined:

1) No strong sense of "norms" in the culture

2) Manipulation of "Free Speech" into "Equal Speech"

3) Manipulation of a populist movement entirely built on nostalgia, the-jews-backstabbed-the-kaiser mythology, and "Germany First" so that they were far enough from Hitler that he could claim to not control them directly, but everyone else feared touching him would start a nationwide riot.

4) Political violence was normalized

5) Everything (churches, tennis clubs) had political party variants (ex: the socialist democrat Protestant church vs a communist one)

6) Terrorist attack on the Reichstag was a huge opportunity and turning point

There's a world of difference between the Internet of 2017 and Germany of 1932 that I really do suggest keeping them apart, and pick up the book.

Re:Facebook says Pages that regularly share false news won’t... by MBCook on Monday August 28, 2017 @01:24PM (#15118333)
That was less than 100 years ago, after the invention of radio and newsreels; I'm not shire how it proves the point of unfettered free speech either.

I'd love to see examples of unfettered free speech from the 1600s or much MUCH easier.

Re:Facebook says Pages that regularly share false news won’t... by wooter on Monday August 28, 2017 @02:38PM (#15118959)
Ancient Athenians adored freedom of speech. Naming a warship after the very concept.

399BC - Socrates speaks to jury at his trial: 'If you offered to let me off this time on condition I am not any longer to speak my mind... I should say to you, "Men of Athens, I shall obey the Gods rather than you."'

1516 - The Education of a Christian Prince by Erasmus. 'In a free state, tongues too should be free.'

In the 1600s, Galileo was executed for mere speech.

Re:Facebook says Pages that regularly share false news won’t... by MBCook on Monday August 28, 2017 @05:38PM (#15120298)
Those are examples of free speech being liked.

Based on the post I was expecting examples of where free speech overcame the kind of 'there are my kind of lies so they must be true you liar' stuff we're seeing now.

Re:Facebook says Pages that regularly share false news won’t... by DrScump on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @03:16AM (#15130241)
Galileo was executed?
Re:Facebook says Pages that regularly share false news won’t... by wooter on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @04:54PM (#15179039)
Oops, sorry. Hoouse arrest for life and all texts burned. Here are a few executions & persecutions for speech: https://www.wired.com/2012/06/famous-persecuted-scientists/
Re:Facebook says Pages that regularly share false news won’t... by globuous on Monday August 28, 2017 @02:02PM (#15118694)
Ooooof course the Godwin Law's still a thing...

Totalitarianism has emerged in societies lacking free speech as well. it's usually a lot more complicated than that.

Regulating free speech is indeed a slippery slope. But it might need to be regulated, I don't have no idea to be honest. A free market works best for the common good when it's regulated though, and I could see it being the same way for free speech. But a slippery slope it is.

Re:Facebook says Pages that regularly share false news won’t... by Daishiman on Monday August 28, 2017 @12:36PM (#15117889)
Are you actually trying to say that Hitler rose to power because his speech was censored?
Re:Facebook says Pages that regularly share false news won’t... by wooter on Monday August 28, 2017 @12:38PM (#15117903)
no
Re:Facebook says Pages that regularly share false news won’t... by quoquoquo on Monday August 28, 2017 @01:02PM (#15118134)
So why use that Hitler example?