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Re:Alaska’s Permafrost Is Thawing by bryananderson on Friday August 25, 2017 @06:25PM (#15102744)
Scientists, celebrities, activists, and politicians have been screaming at the public for decades about this. They have used logical and emotional appeals. They have appealed to data, to our common humanity, to our long-term prosperity, to our duty to our children. None of it has worked. What exactly do you propose?

The "norm" is whatever is cheapest. That is what we have to do: make renewables cheapest.

Re:Alaska’s Permafrost Is Thawing by omegaworks on Monday August 28, 2017 @07:49PM (#15121097)
I think we're talking about the same things. I'm just trying to make the case for how we should make renewables cheaper. The existing non-renewable oil & gas norm historically depended upon heavy investments in infrastructure:

1. Interstate expressway system

2. Oil and gas pipelines

3. Fracking R&D

3. Direct tax subsidization of private refining and exploration.

We need that level of effort applied to renewables development.