Re:The U.S. is risking an academic brain drain
by derping69 on Friday August 25, 2017 @01:28PM
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US spends more on military than every Euro country combined. If they are attacked we have to defend them and they know it. They would contribute a relatively insignificant amount if we were ever attacked.
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Re:The U.S. is risking an academic brain drain
by dragonwriter on Friday August 25, 2017 @01:34PM
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> If they are attacked we have to defend them and they know it. They would contribute a relatively insignificant amount if we were ever attacked.
If? In the entire history of NATO, the mutual defense provisions of the treaty have been invoked exactly once, and that in response to an attack on the US, and the non-US NATO contributions were not insignificant.
Re:The U.S. is risking an academic brain drain
by plantain on Friday August 25, 2017 @01:48PM
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>the mutual defense provisions of the treaty have been invoked exactly once
that's the point
Re:The U.S. is risking an academic brain drain
by dragonwriter on Friday August 25, 2017 @01:51PM
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Sure, deterrence is the point of the treaty, but the claim upthread was about the significance of contributions that would be made in the event of an attack, a claim which contradicts the facts of the time when an attack resulting in the mutual defense provisions being invoked actually occurred.
Re:The U.S. is risking an academic brain drain
by forapurpose on Friday August 25, 2017 @01:35PM
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> They would contribute a relatively insignificant amount if we were ever attacked
Many Europeans gave their lives in Afghanistan, responding to an attack on the U.S., and also in Iraq on a fools errand. The U.S. is the predominant power, but that doesn't make others insignificant.
Re:The U.S. is risking an academic brain drain
by deong on Friday August 25, 2017 @03:26PM
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The fact that we spend too much by an order of magnitude or two doesn't mean the rest of the world is dependent on us. We don't spend this much because it's the only way to make the world safe. We spend this much because every Congressman has a some part of a defense contractor in their district and they'd rather build billion dollar boondoggles that the military leadership explicitly doesn't want than vote to close the local plant.