Yeah and that F2P MOBA is one of the most beloved, polished, and competitive games around. I don't understand the comparison to a slot machine.

I can't speak to the F2P card game because it does not exist yet.

The issue with DOTA is that its audience is self-limiting. You're locking 5 strangers together in an hour long game where failure is heavily, heavily punished and you're penalized for leaving early.

Where are the games for those of us who loved Half-Life and Portal? The last thing I want to do at the end of a long day is be yelled at by college kids and teenagers for an hour.

Sure, DotA 2 is a rare F2P MOBA that's fair. I mean, I find most of hero kinda meh, but I do appreciate their business model.

But a Card game based on DotA can only mean one thing:

- A F2P game. I can't imagine there being a different model

- A collectible card game. They won't innovate here.

- Buyable cosmetic, but not community made. It's not like they'll allow visual clutter on your cards.

The trading cards/badges in Steam are basically an F2P Pachinko/slot machine already.