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Re:Tesla’s Push to Build a Self-Driving Car Sparks Dissent A... by s17n on Thursday August 24, 2017 @04:21PM (#15093725)
> What are you measuring? The current autopilot already appears to be materially safer, in certain circumstances, than human drivers

That's a good question. Clearly, existing self-driving tech is safer than human drivers on average. However, "average" human driving includes texting while driving, drunk driving, falling asleep at the wheel, etc. Is the appropriate comparison the "average" driver, or a driver who is alert and paying attention?

Re:Tesla’s Push to Build a Self-Driving Car Sparks Dissent A... by JumpCrisscross on Thursday August 24, 2017 @04:25PM (#15093741)
> Is the appropriate comparison the "average" driver, or a driver who is alert and paying attention?

The most appropriate comparison set would be the drivers who will replace themselves with autopilot-steered vehicles.