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Re:I spent my career in tech, but wasn’t prepared for its ef... by pbhjpbhj on Thursday August 24, 2017 @03:59PM (#15093513)
>We have no issue connecting with them, or //

It's good that all people are exactly the same as you and your kids and that this will therefore work for everyone, isn't it. /s

Re:I spent my career in tech, but wasn’t prepared for its ef... by jdmichal on Thursday August 24, 2017 @04:18PM (#15093699)
As I read it, you missed the point. Here's my reading: Are the digital devices just current rationalization for connective breaks that happen in family settings? Yes, some families have trouble connecting. No one is arguing that. But would they have trouble connecting even without the presence of these devices?

My opinion is that disconnects are typically about joint values, interests, and expectations. Or, more appropriately, lack thereof. Yes, there's the possibility that the parents don't understand digital devices and therefore are limited in joining the party. But, again my opinion, if it wasn't digital devices, it would be some other thing that was new or foreign to the parents. And so perhaps the real failure is the willingness of the parents to engage at the children's level. It also might represent a lack of shared values and expectations in connecting in the first place.

Re:I spent my career in tech, but wasn’t prepared for its ef... by SunnyCanuck on Thursday August 24, 2017 @04:15PM (#15093666)
I didn't make any such claim. If you'd like to respond to what was actually written, feel free. :)
Re:I spent my career in tech, but wasn’t prepared for its ef... by pbhjpbhj on Thursday August 24, 2017 @04:51PM (#15093949)
Sorry if the pith obscured the substantive point: You said you had no problems with connecting with your children, the point is that there are varying characters and that other children may have problems with connecting that are exacerbated by device usage. I know I have those sorts of problems as an adult and suspect at least one of my kids has similar issues.

Your comment seemed dismissive of the possibility of a problem, and of the possibility of that problem being exacerbated by screentime/phone use/tablet use. Ergo my interjection.

As an analogy, that I think is apposite, some people can smoke tobacco and not get addicted, for others it becomes a consuming need; I think electronic interactions can be like this for many people. I get tetchy (irritable) when I don't have a drink for a few days, a similar tetchiness takes me when I don't get my fix of phone time. Screens can provide a very easy way to avoid social interaction, something which is a challenge for me. Stick this all together and you have problems connecting with people that are exacerbated by increased screentime; I do have the agency to avoid getting completely absorbed by devices but I also exercise that agency on behalf of my kids as I believe they have not (as pre-teens) developed the ability for themselves.

Re:I spent my career in tech, but wasn’t prepared for its ef... by shakna on Thursday August 24, 2017 @04:26PM (#15093748)
> If you can't connect with your kids when they have iPhone in hand, you're not going to be able to connect with your kids even if you're a million miles from the nearest wireless cloud.

It seems to me, you did make that claim.

Re:I spent my career in tech, but wasn’t prepared for its ef... by robertlagrant on Friday August 25, 2017 @03:39PM (#15101546)
They were obviously implying that, yes. Then just backpedalling for some strange reason.