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Re:Billionaires and big ag are joining venture investors to ... by dasil003 on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @08:17PM (#15086508)
I think it's foolish to assume that some novel and highly processed food item is going to be safer than something which we've been eating for thousands of generations. Basing the conclusion of safety based on a piecemeal analysis of the components hand-waves away the entire complexity of digestion and metabolization.
Re:Billionaires and big ag are joining venture investors to ... by ggreer on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @08:31PM (#15086582)
> I think it's foolish to assume that some novel and highly processed food item is going to be safer than something which we've been eating for thousands of generations.

It's not that processed foods are particularly safe, but that meat is unsafe in a way we're accustomed to. Again: every year, meat-borne pathogens kill 5,000 Americans and cause illnesses in 1% of the population. Fake meats simply don't cause those rates of illness or death. If they did, the FDA would not allow them to be sold.

Re:Billionaires and big ag are joining venture investors to ... by ericd on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @08:55PM (#15086723)
And coal plants kill far more people than nuclear ones. It's just not as obvious that they're the cause to those who are sick.

Who is to say that eating an equivalent amount of this fake meat product wouldn't cause a far greater number of deaths and reduction in quality adjusted years? It will be much harder to tell, because the problems aren't as obvious/acute, and there are always a huge number of confounding variables when it comes to nutrition.

Unless the problems it causes are acute, the FDA isn't going to have a very good way of comparing the safety of these with normal meat.

Re:Billionaires and big ag are joining venture investors to ... by FeepingCreature on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @11:02PM (#15087305)
We don't know what properties this meat will have; we do know what causes regular meat to be harmful, and fake meat does not share several of those particular factors.
Re:Billionaires and big ag are joining venture investors to ... by fish_fan on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @09:56PM (#15087021)
I think you are crazily optimistic about both the FDA and the ability to see any significant health effects from fake meat. Even my vegan friends have only been eating it for about a decade, and that doesn't strike me as enough time for e.g. discerning whether it is carcinogenic.

Among other things, sodium nitrate (included in the above description of fake meat) is, by itself, known to be more carcinogenic than red meat itself. But you don't see the FDA ensuring new foods don't use it.

Re:Billionaires and big ag are joining venture investors to ... by jonknee on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @09:15PM (#15086842)
Slaughterhouses and packaged meat are a pretty recent invention, certainly not one we’ve evolved with over thousands of generations. Is it really more natural to open a cellophane package of ground meat that comes from who knows how many animals?
Re:Billionaires and big ag are joining venture investors to ... by DamnYuppie on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @09:58PM (#15087033)
What makes you think slaughter houses were needed? That just made things more "efficient". Humans and our ancestors have been eating meat since we have been a species.
Re:Billionaires and big ag are joining venture investors to ... by jononor on Thursday August 24, 2017 @08:05AM (#15089364)
Some of the things done in order to achieve efficiency has tangible consequences on the healthiness of the food. For instance cramming many animals in a very small space (e.g. in poultry farming) increases chances of contagious diseases developing. Industry is trying to compensate using antibiotics, but that has issues also.
Re:Billionaires and big ag are joining venture investors to ... by jonknee on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @11:41PM (#15087428)
It’s processing, which is what you were knocking meat alternatives for.
Re:Billionaires and big ag are joining venture investors to ... by pulverizer on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @10:41PM (#15087217)
Just because human race survived thousands of years eating certain food does not mean that food is safe in today's standard.
Re:Billionaires and big ag are joining venture investors to ... by Freak_NL on Thursday August 24, 2017 @03:04AM (#15088200)
Especially considering the fact that we will live up to three times as long as the average hunter-gatherer. Time matters when considering carcinogens and other long-term effects. National and international bodies providing food guidelines tend to advocate a reduction in red meat, sausage, etc. for good reasons.