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Re:Apple Scales Back Its Ambitions for a Self-Driving Car by rothbardrand on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @07:10PM (#15086018)
> They are improved user interfaces over things that already existed.

This is the lie every Apple hater tells themselves to reconcile their hate with the fact that Apple keeps inventing things never before seen.

Re:Apple Scales Back Its Ambitions for a Self-Driving Car by dkonofalski on Thursday August 24, 2017 @05:02PM (#15094030)
They also tend to qualify it as "refinement" instead of "invention" because their definition of "innovation" can't include Apple for some dogmatic reason.