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Re:A Thorium-Salt Reactor Has Fired Up for the First Time in... by WillPostForFood on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @05:01PM (#15085087)
“We will begin to revive and expand our nuclear energy sector, which I’m so happy about, which produces clean, renewable and emissions-free energy,” Trump said.

https://www.nei.org/News-Media/News/News-Archives/2017/Trump...

Re:A Thorium-Salt Reactor Has Fired Up for the First Time in... by FireBeyond on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @05:12PM (#15085232)
“We’ve already eliminated a devastating, anti-coal regulation, but that was just the beginning,” he said. “My administration is putting an end to the war on coal, going to have clean coal, really clean coal.”

“We will produce American coal to power American industry.”

Re:A Thorium-Salt Reactor Has Fired Up for the First Time in... by WillPostForFood on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @11:42PM (#15087433)
In the speech now known as the "energy dominance" speech, Trump promoted fracking, nuclear, offshore drilling, and coal (including exporting coal).
Re:A Thorium-Salt Reactor Has Fired Up for the First Time in... by pizza on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @09:27PM (#15086901)
ah yes the renewable nuclear
Re:A Thorium-Salt Reactor Has Fired Up for the First Time in... by WillPostForFood on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @11:35PM (#15087410)
Backstory on the debate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_proposed_as_rene...

Regardless, renewable is a less important concept than clean (how do you renew the sun which is a big nuclear reaction?).

Re:A Thorium-Salt Reactor Has Fired Up for the First Time in... by aidenn0 on Thursday August 24, 2017 @12:42AM (#15087641)
The sun will burn out at a fixed time regardless of how much or little energy we harvest from it.

Assuming energy demand growth of 5% per year, we have enough land-based actinates for less than a century of energy usage in fast breeder reactors (if you prefer 2% annual demand growth, it's enough for about 2 centuries).

Seawater uranium buys you more time, depending on how you extract it, but hundreds of years and the sun burning out are two very different timelines.

Re:A Thorium-Salt Reactor Has Fired Up for the First Time in... by DennisP on Thursday August 24, 2017 @09:35AM (#15089947)
Seawater uranium goes well beyond "hundreds of years." The oceans hold four billion tons of uranium, which in fast breeders would last many millions of years. On top of that, it's in equilibrium; as more is removed, more will dissolve from rocks. It really is at a timescale similar to the sun burning out.
Re:A Thorium-Salt Reactor Has Fired Up for the First Time in... by adrianN on Thursday August 24, 2017 @02:02AM (#15087927)
A hundred years would give us plenty of time to develop alternative energy sources (fusion?). The fossil fuel age also last(s/ed) for about that long.
Re:A Thorium-Salt Reactor Has Fired Up for the First Time in... by mlonkibjuyhv on Thursday August 24, 2017 @08:04AM (#15089358)
And how long will it take us to boil of the oceans (as in fusion) assuming 5% year over year increase?

How has energy consumption behaved before around the time of paradigm shifts and plentiful "free" energy?

Re:A Thorium-Salt Reactor Has Fired Up for the First Time in... by adrianN on Thursday August 24, 2017 @08:57AM (#15089689)
Currently energy use is about 0.01% of energy that the sun sends us (if my googling is right). If energy use increases 5% per year, it doubles every 15 years or so, so after a hundred years we still use so little energy that it doesn't matter compared to solar heating. I think the oceans are safe.
Re:A Thorium-Salt Reactor Has Fired Up for the First Time in... by aidenn0 on Thursday August 24, 2017 @02:22AM (#15088026)
And I'm all in favor of fission as a bridge-fuel to something more sustainable, but many people act as though it will last indefinitely, when it seems clear to me that it won't.
Re:A Thorium-Salt Reactor Has Fired Up for the First Time in... by xorfish on Thursday August 24, 2017 @04:49AM (#15088552)
At current energy consumption, Thorium on earth is so able to power the whole planet for 100'000+ years.

Solar panels do also need resources to produce...