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Re:Rethinking the D-Bus Message Bus by Xylakant on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @01:16PM (#15083291)
AFAIR the gnome people were desperately looking for someone who'd maintain console kit and the systemd people stepped up and provided a working alternative, so gnome switched. After the switch, systemd basically was a hard dependency for every system using a recent gnome version. If the time spent complaining about systemd were spent towards supporting alternatives, things might look different today. It doesn't require coding an alternative, but organizing support, funding a patreon etc. would go a long way.
Re:Rethinking the D-Bus Message Bus by JoshTriplett on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @01:55PM (#15083609)
It's also worth noting that you can still, today, run systemd-logind (and several other systemd components) with the compatibility layer of systemd-shim on top of another init system. But even that doesn't have enough people willing to maintain it.
Re:Rethinking the D-Bus Message Bus by atemerev on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @07:01PM (#15085963)
People who are unhappy with systemd are usually so for reasons other than compatibility.