SEC Is Studying Spotify's Plan to Bypass IPO in NYSE Listing

Re:SEC Is Studying Spotify's Plan to Bypass IPO in NYSE Listing by csomar on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @05:27PM (#15076544)

That seems rather like someone is going to eat "the loss" than "providing value for both guys". The stock market is the mechanism that provides value for the buyer and seller.

If you are selling before any price discovery is on, you are either getting screwed; or your investors are. If the investment bank could figure out the right price for the shares, why have the stock exchange in the first place.

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Re:SEC Is Studying Spotify's Plan to Bypass IPO in NYSE Listing by jasode on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @06:03PM (#15076758)

>The stock market is the mechanism that provides value

If this was true in every circumstance, please consider why "market makers"[1] exist within the NYSE and London stock exchanges. If the stock market itself provides the value, buyers and sellers should find "market makers" redundant with zero value-added -- but that doesn't happen.

Therefore, I propose that one doesn't compare investment bank IPO underwriters to a naked stock exchange. Instead, compare the underwriter to a "market maker". The underwriter can be seen as the first market maker for the initial offering. That's worth something to many owners of companies looking to get liquidity.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_maker#In_stock_exchange

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Re:SEC Is Studying Spotify's Plan to Bypass IPO in NYSE Listing by sseveran on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @07:58PM (#15077355)

They are completely orthogonal. A market maker provides immediacy. Not all parties in a market want to trade at the same time. The market maker provides the service of immediacy, which they charge for. You are free not to use their service. You can place your own resting order, you can use an intraday cross, or a an opening or closing cross to access liquidity. You could also execute a block trade through a bank. You could use a dark pool. Or you could use some combination of all of them.

The underwriter is like a market maker only in the fact that it is taking principal risk when it purchases the shares. It typically already has buyers lined up for all the shares and it does not face risk from the price changing between when the IPO is priced and trading starts. That is not to say that the bank is not without risk. It has obligations like price support for the IPO.

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