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Re:Studying how Firefox can collect additional data in a pri... by Vinnl on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @01:59PM (#15074872)
> Or get the data from a random sample of users. You don't need data from everyone.

To my amateur ear, that actually sounds like a good compromise to lessen the blow somewhat more. You should suggest it to Mozilla :)

Re:Studying how Firefox can collect additional data in a pri... by Ajedi32 on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @03:50PM (#15075769)
I'm not sure how that would help. If I opt-out of data collection, I don't think I'd be particularly pleased if I get randomly selected to be one of the users in this "random sample" and the stats get sent anyway.

And if I opt-in to data collection, why would it matter to me whether the stats I'm sending are a result of me being selected as part of a random sample or not? Might as well just _always_ send those stats; it doesn't matter to me.

Re:Studying how Firefox can collect additional data in a pri... by mintplant on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @03:30PM (#15075628)
That's what's proposed here. I guess no one actually read the post...?
Re:Studying how Firefox can collect additional data in a pri... by dsp1234 on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @05:24PM (#15076524)
There is no mention that once validated, that the RAPPOR-based metrics when fully deployed would be take from a random population. Only that the initial study of the system will be done to a random population.

FTA:

What we plan to do now is run an opt-out SHIELD study [6] to validate our implementation of RAPPOR. This study will collect the value for users’ home page (eTLD+1) for a randomly selected group of our release population We are hoping to launch this in mid-September."

Notably:

"this study will collect ... for a randomly selected group"

[6] - https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Shield/Shield_Studies

Re:Studying how Firefox can collect additional data in a pri... by stewbrew on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @12:03AM (#15078447)
I added the second part about the random sample later to the comment when I moved the proposal already out of my short term memory. I hope they use the data from their initial study to test whether the opt-out group actually is different from the group they already get data from.