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Re:Ellen Pao: My lawsuit failed. Others won’t by enraged_camel on Monday August 21, 2017 @10:36AM (#15064902)
>>But even with that, there may be biological reasons why men and women are interested in different things. Which may mean more women in job A, or more men in job B.

You say biological reasons, I say social programming. The whole nature vs. nurture debate has been going on for ages.

Basically, we have no way of knowing what portion of women's tendencies to gravitate towards certain jobs and careers can be attributed to biological factors vs. to the way they were raised by their parents and conditioned by society.

Consider this: back in the 50s and 60s, women dominated computer programming. It was seen as an obvious career choice for young, talented women. This article explains the history much better:

http://gender.stanford.edu/news/2011/researcher-reveals-how-...

Re:Ellen Pao: My lawsuit failed. Others won’t by Clubber on Monday August 21, 2017 @11:13AM (#15065141)
I'm not sure why this was down voted. I would say other than lifting heavy things and childbirth, every other difference would be social programming, or just societal norms. I mean read about female Russian snipers in WWII. Read about Confederate women during the Civil War running their farms by themselves while their husbands were off to war. Hell the whole pink for girls and blue for boys is a recent social phenomenon of the latter 20th century. FDR had his baby pictures wearing a dress. The person who programmed the Apollo guidance system (it was 100% guided) was a woman.

My point is women aren't into programming because lack of biological ability.

Re:Ellen Pao: My lawsuit failed. Others won’t by adekok on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @02:36AM (#15070219)
> You say biological reasons, I say social programming.

The science says biological reasons:

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Simon_Baron-Cohen/publi...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/belinda-parmar/sugar-and-spice...

Among others...

> Basically, we have no way of knowing what portion of women's tendencies to gravitate towards certain jobs and careers can be attributed to biological factors vs. to the way they were raised by their parents and conditioned by society.

That isn't true, either.

Let's look at Sweden, which is a modern egalitarian society. If society is largely gender-blind, then people should overwhelmingly make "free" choices. i.e. choices which are strongly influenced by biology.

And we see that. Jobs in Sweden are still overwhelmingly split by gender. Engineers are overwhelmingly male, and people-oriented jobs (nurse, etc.) are overwhelmingly female.

Here's another discussion of gender differences:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/games-primates-play/201...

To deny that men and women are psychologically different is to claim that evolution / biology works on the physical attributes, but does not work on the corresponding mental attributes.

That claim just cannot possibly be true.