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Re:Serverless Raspberry Pi Cluster with Docker by zwischenzug on Monday August 21, 2017 @06:39AM (#15063482)
I disagree; I find it very helpful.

It's not terribly complicated either - if you are only concerned with code, then your deployment is 'serverless' in the sense that _you are not concerned with servers_.

Of course 'servers' are involved; the point is whether that's of concern to your deployment.

Re:Serverless Raspberry Pi Cluster with Docker by frou_dh on Monday August 21, 2017 @07:23AM (#15063689)
Daemon processes (100% software) also get called "servers".

In an old job, in an effort to disambiguate, I would always use "computer" to mean hardware (losing battle).

Re:Serverless Raspberry Pi Cluster with Docker by icebraining on Monday August 21, 2017 @08:18AM (#15063981)
I'm not sure that distinction is clear. For example, in AWS Lambda, you still have issues like functions being "warm" or not, and people write code specifically to handle that. Meanwhile, nowadays you can acquire and configure even dedicated machines using just code.
Re:Serverless Raspberry Pi Cluster with Docker by joseph on Monday August 21, 2017 @08:29AM (#15064045)
If you have to configure a machine, even in code, then you aren't "serverless". To me, serverless means that you do not manage the machines or even have direct access to them.
Re:Serverless Raspberry Pi Cluster with Docker by icebraining on Monday August 21, 2017 @11:11AM (#15065128)
What's a machine? :) A dedicated server sure is, but a VPS? An Heroku Dyno? What's the line?
Re:Serverless Raspberry Pi Cluster with Docker by monkmartinez on Monday August 21, 2017 @01:14PM (#15066002)
> What's a machine?

I would say "machine" means the hardware and/or the operating system of the "server" (which is a fancy word for "computer").

The "and/or" part being very important!

Re:Serverless Raspberry Pi Cluster with Docker by zwischenzug on Monday August 21, 2017 @11:05AM (#15065096)
Fair points. I'd say it's as clear as 'middleware'. When you are trying to get to the limits of performance (or just optimizing), then you tend to start thinking about the platform it runs on.

This is the problem with most abstractions in IT I guess - they're beautiful and clean until reality bites.

Re:Serverless Raspberry Pi Cluster with Docker by lucaspiller on Monday August 21, 2017 @09:43AM (#15064530)
Wouldn't that definition apply to services like Heroku as well though?
Re:Serverless Raspberry Pi Cluster with Docker by zwischenzug on Monday August 21, 2017 @10:59AM (#15065061)
For sure.