Rise and fall of JVM languages

Re:Rise and fall of JVM languages by m12k on Monday August 21, 2017 @05:56AM (#15063278)

Maybe Gradle is the 'killer app' that keeps Groovy popular? I've heard from people with tricky build tool requirements that it's one of the best options out there.

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Re:Rise and fall of JVM languages by aweiland on Monday August 21, 2017 @11:19AM (#15065182)

I see Groovy in 3 places: Gradle files (a Kotlin alternative is coming), Jenkins pipeline build scripts, and the Spock testing framework.

I don't have a good read on how popular Grails is anymore. I liked it a lot in the past but I don't need it anymore with Kotlin and Spring Boot.

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Re:Rise and fall of JVM languages by vorg on Monday August 21, 2017 @02:42PM (#15066666)

> Gradle files (a Kotlin alternative is coming)

Gradle's been able to use Kotlin for build files since Gradle 3.0 which was released last year.

For Jenkins, only a subset of Apache Groovy can be used. None of the functional methods will work when used.

Grails 2.x is still around, but virtually no-one's converting their projects to version 3, or starting new Grails projects in version 3.

Groovy development has come to a standstill, and even contributions from outside developers just sit there, such as the new Antlr 4-based parser which someone contributed a whole year ago.

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Re:Rise and fall of JVM languages by cutler on Monday August 21, 2017 @10:19PM (#15069252)

Kotlin has its own build system - Kobalt.

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Re:Rise and fall of JVM languages by joemccall86 on Monday August 21, 2017 @11:51AM (#15065424)

We've stuck with Grails for a few years now and I still prefer it over vanilla Spring Boot. Things like JSON views and GORM are still really nice to have.

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