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Re:The Irrationality of Alcoholics Anonymous (2015) by aaron695 on Sunday August 20, 2017 @10:13AM (#15058461)
> He told me that for years he had drunk to excess, sometimes having as many as 20 drinks at a time

Hmmmm that's not a lot when your talking problem drinking as an addiction. That'd be typical in a frat house.

There's a lot wrong with the article and a lot right. Pick carefully.

There's no reason you can't go to AA and do the Sinclair Method. AA is full of Atheists the god bit is misleading.

I'm not sure why they are putting down AA when AA is not against the Sinclair Method. AA has found their way works for some people. It's also cheap councling. Not everyone can afford well paid doctors.

If your drinking is that bad you need a pill to stop it wouldn't hurt to talk to others about the problem as well. And AA is a meme/cult/religion that allows that except they don't go to war and fight others over oil and resources.

Re:The Irrationality of Alcoholics Anonymous (2015) by Freak_NL on Sunday August 20, 2017 @10:32AM (#15058522)
>> […] sometimes having as many as 20 drinks at a time

> Hmmmm that's not a lot when your talking problem drinking as an addiction.

Twenty drinks at a time is not a lot? Don't most people draw the line way before that? In the Netherlands drinking more than three drinks a day is considered problematic drinking (for men); I wager that this won't differ that much around the globe.

Re:The Irrationality of Alcoholics Anonymous (2015) by DanBC on Sunday August 20, 2017 @10:39AM (#15058551)
20 drinks at one sitting is a lot, and it's firmly in the problem and harmful drinking end of risky alcohol use.

People with alcoholism can drink a lot more than that.

A UK unit of alcohol is 10 ml of pure alcohol. You'd consider inpatient residential rehab for someone drinking 30 units per day. There are roughly 40 units in a litre of spirits in the UK.

https://pathways.nice.org.uk/pathways/alcohol-use-disorders/...

Re:The Irrationality of Alcoholics Anonymous (2015) by 0xcde4c3db on Sunday August 20, 2017 @12:04PM (#15058946)
And just to be clear, it's rare that what people call "a drink" is only one unit. What someone casually counts as "20 drinks" could easily be 50+ units.
Re:The Irrationality of Alcoholics Anonymous (2015) by psyc on Sunday August 20, 2017 @10:42AM (#15058563)
20 drinks is excessive by any standard I ever heard of.
Re:The Irrationality of Alcoholics Anonymous (2015) by aaron695 on Sunday August 20, 2017 @11:06AM (#15058679)
There a difference between healthy living or occasional dangerous behaviour compared to an addiction that needs individual medical intervention.

I find it a strange case for a male person with an addiction problem (which is what we are talking, AA style intervention) thinking 'sometimes as many as' 20 drinks to be a statement of supprise.

Re:The Irrationality of Alcoholics Anonymous (2015) by bdcravens on Sunday August 20, 2017 @01:24PM (#15059265)
> That'd be typical in a frat house.

Pretty sure that's not a good measuring stick for healthy behaviors.