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Re:Why a Universal Basic Income Would Be a Calamity by blfr on Sunday August 20, 2017 @08:14AM (#15058098)
Using Saudi Arabia as an argument against UBI is like using Somalia as an argument against libertarianism -- oil money or lack of government oversight are not the problems there.
Re:Why a Universal Basic Income Would Be a Calamity by pavlov on Sunday August 20, 2017 @08:21AM (#15058123)
Yes, Saudi Arabia combines a form of UBI with a stifling cultural environment and a medieval approach to national security.

Most proponents of UBI expect it to lead to increased cultural creativity and entrepreneurial risk-taking, both of which are actively discouraged in Saudi Arabia.

Re:Why a Universal Basic Income Would Be a Calamity by eighthnate on Sunday August 20, 2017 @08:42AM (#15058181)
The article is a bit disingenuous because saudi arabia's population increased from 5 million in 1967 to nearly 35 million today.

It's a 600% increase compared to the US's 50% increase in the same time frame.

It's the same kind of dishonest cherrypicking of data to push your agenda. No different than when people try to compare norway to the US. What applies to a small racially homogenous scandinavian with tons of oil doesn't usually apply to a racially diverse continent sized nation like the US.

This is why my opinion on economics and newspapers have declined. Too much biased cherrypicking of data and too much agenda-pushing.

Re:Why a Universal Basic Income Would Be a Calamity by vixen99 on Sunday August 20, 2017 @09:19AM (#15058300)
The status quo is that we don't have basic income. On the agenda is the proposal that we do. A critique of a novel proposition is agenda-pushing?
Re:Why a Universal Basic Income Would Be a Calamity by eighthnate on Sunday August 20, 2017 @09:30AM (#15058342)
> A critique of a novel proposition is agenda-pushing?

Yes? Especially when it disingenuous and cherrypicking data. As I said, people with an agenda tend to do this. Whether it is the people on the left trying to compare us to norway or the people on the right trying to compare us to saudi arabia.

Re:Why a Universal Basic Income Would Be a Calamity by posterboy on Sunday August 20, 2017 @12:08PM (#15058964)
name calling is disenginious, too. Everyone has an agenda. People with a "wrong" agenda tend to use wrong methods to push it. But you imply malignance of a particular flavor without giving concrete evidence for the cause ... or giving due critique (edit: wait, there is critique, just not concerned with the conclusion). Granted, to claim low quality of content, none of that's needed.
Re:Why a Universal Basic Income Would Be a Calamity by mabbo on Sunday August 20, 2017 @08:18AM (#15058115)
They aren't the only problems in both cases, but they are major problems.