Re:Ask HN: What's your spectacular burnout story?
by dragonwriter on Saturday August 19, 2017 @07:14PM
(#15056148)
AA is controversial not only for it's religious content, but also because it's empirically both far less effective than it claims and less effective than alternatives. See, e.g, https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/04/the-irr...
Re:Ask HN: What's your spectacular burnout story?
by gotthemwmds on Saturday August 19, 2017 @07:52PM
(#15056260)
How can anyone make an empirical statement about AA -- an organization that does not collect any sort of statistics about itself what so ever?
Re:Ask HN: What's your spectacular burnout story?
by dragonwriter on Saturday August 19, 2017 @08:45PM
(#15056381)
AA not collecting statistics doesn't prevent other people from conducting studies of recovery in addicts that include people in AA.
Re:Ask HN: What's your spectacular burnout story?
by StavrosK on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @08:32PM
(#15077532)
Jesus, is there really a magical anti-alcoholism pill? Why isn't this more widely known? It could save many lives!
Re:Ask HN: What's your spectacular burnout story?
by middle334 on Saturday August 19, 2017 @08:57PM
(#15056421)
I just didn't want to derail things into another "AA is bad because it's religious" discussion. To paraphrase Heinlein: If solemnly rubbing blue mud in my belly button would have gotten me sober, I would have done that. If something like Rational Recovery had been an option, I would have gone. But AA is free and there are meetings everywhere, nearly all the time.
It is kind of dismaying to get out of nearly a month of expensive treatment and then be told, "Welp, pretty much all we've got for you at this point is for you to attend a crapload of AA meetings, good luck." But I figure that desperation is an important part of staying sober, at least until you've fleshed out some kind of support.
AA is controversial among a tiny minority of anti-religion internet blowhards. For the vast majority of reasonable folks, it really isn't. Glad to hear it has worked for you.