Re:Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android
by PeanutCurry on Friday August 18, 2017 @08:29PM
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Except for the part where you completely ignored their point that you and anyone else with security concerns can conduct their own audit of the code and verify whether or not the telemetry functionality is performing in the manner described.
Re:Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android
by throwaway2048 on Friday August 18, 2017 @08:57PM
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show me where i can audit the google play store analytics code, or what is running on their servers.
Re:Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android
by st3fan on Friday August 18, 2017 @09:27PM
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Focus and Klar do not use the Google Play Store Analytics. Mozilla has their own Telemetry service. This documentation is a good start: https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/focus-android/wiki/Telemet...
You have to understand how extremely strict Mozilla is with using third-party services for things like crash reporting and telemetry. It is extremely difficult to find services that meet our very high standard for privacy.
Re:Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android
by throwaway2048 on Friday August 18, 2017 @10:07PM
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Yet this thread is about how the firefox APKs contain google analytics code....
Re:Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android
by st3fan on Friday August 18, 2017 @10:52PM
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My guess is that it is a dependency of the Adjust SDK that Focus uses. See https://github.com/adjust/android_sdk/blob/master/README.md
Re:Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android
by diggernet on Friday August 18, 2017 @11:30PM
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Wait... Focus doesn't use Google Analytics because they don't meet your very high standards for privacy. But it does use Adjust, which means Adjust does meet your very high standards, even though it uses Google Analytics?
Re:Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android
by st3fan on Saturday August 19, 2017 @07:54AM
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This is a misunderstanding. Adjust does not use google analytics. You are connecting unrelated things. The existence of a library, which actually is not a google analytics library, does not mean at all this app talks to google servers.
AFAIK Focus and Adjust make no connections to google. Check the source?
Re:Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android
by rhaps0dy on Saturday August 19, 2017 @06:05AM
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But Adjust only comes into play when the app is installed by clicking on a Google ad campaign. So at that point, Google already knows you've clicked on the ad and installed the app (because that's how they bill Mozilla).
Re:Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android
by st3fan on Saturday August 19, 2017 @07:55AM
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I don’t think Adjust is for Google ad campaigns actually. It is used for links we put in our emails or in Firefox desktop. Or for ads that we buy on Facebook. I don’t think there is any connection to google.
The point is you cant have it both ways, both decrying tracking of users and then actively enaging in it, and agressively defending it when it comes to light.