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Re:ACLU of California Statement: White Supremacist Violence ... by rendall on Thursday August 17, 2017 @01:55PM (#15039119)
"The nazi party came into power with less than 40% approval and gained that power that nearly destroyed the world."

The Nazis first attacked and destroyed the free press and other free-speech institutions. Robust legal protections for free speech, and a culture of vigorously defending it, will prevent tyrants from gaining and maintaining power.

There is no 'paradox of tolerance'. The intolerant are intolerant, no matter which side they are on. Peaceful racists should have their say. We are all free to disagree and shun them. This isn't ivory tower. This is part and parcel of a free and open society.

Re:ACLU of California Statement: White Supremacist Violence ... by pm90 on Thursday August 17, 2017 @02:46PM (#15039620)
I fear though that "Peaceful Racists" will spread to all conservatives. That > 60 million people could legitimately vote for a racist, xenophobic and sexist bigot seem to point out that these people are OK with racism, even if they're not active participants. Which is extremely disturbing.

From what I've read, anti-semitism, while it existed, wasn't mainstream in Germany as well. But the Nazis were "Peaceful Racists" at first (they changed pretty quickly) and seized power. I genuinely fear the same might happen in the US ...

Re:ACLU of California Statement: White Supremacist Violence ... by icu on Friday August 18, 2017 @07:40PM (#15050599)
If you fear that racism will spread to all conservatives than you really need to engage with them in respectful dialogue to test your hypothesis.

For example, you might be surprised to learn that the Democratic party was the party of slavery in the South and that the Nazi party used the Jim Crow laws as inspiration for their racist segregation and treatment of Jews. As shocking as this statement sounds, the Nazi party shares its ideological roots with the Democratic party. If you don't believe me please fact check it.

Lastly, I'd recommend reading Thomas Sowell and Dinesh D’Souza for a better understanding of what is conservatism.

Re:ACLU of California Statement: White Supremacist Violence ... by andrenth on Thursday August 17, 2017 @06:21PM (#15041607)
The association of Nazis with conservatives, who defend JUDEO-Christian values, is dishonest to say the least.
Re:ACLU of California Statement: White Supremacist Violence ... by pm90 on Friday August 18, 2017 @04:24AM (#15044482)
What JUDEO-Christian values are you talking about? Those espoused by Donald Trump? Good Sir, conservatives voted for Trump DESPITE him being a manifestation of everything OPPOSITE to the values you speak of (liar, doesn't pay his debt, treats everyone else poorly, assaults women etc.). And if not for those values, what do conservatives stand for, really? Just a party of opposition/trolling liberals?

So who is being dishonest?

Let's drop the sham that not all conservatives will go down the terrible path of Nazism/White Supremacy in this current political climate. If not a certainty, from how Trump has been able to get away with one amazingly blatant political scandal after another, it shows just how its terrifyingly possible for that to happen. There is a path from A to B, and to ignore it is dangerous, disingenuous and dishonest

Re:ACLU of California Statement: White Supremacist Violence ... by andrenth on Saturday August 19, 2017 @03:06PM (#15055028)
I never mentioned Trump, so your little rant makes no sense.

I'm talking about western values: private property, freedom of speech, the right to live.

These are historically conservative causes. These are judeo-christian values. How can a conservative be a Jew-hating Nazi while at the same time defending their values? It's a contradiction, it makes no sense.

In fact it's the left that is pretty much anti-Israel and pro-Palestine (like Hitler btw).

Re:ACLU of California Statement: White Supremacist Violence ... by aaomidi on Thursday August 17, 2017 @06:04PM (#15041468)
This is exactly what I mean by the paradox of tolerance. If we're tolerant towards intolerance, we're going to be outed.