I'm guessing these plugins have improved in the last couple of years? Every time I've tested them, I've been somewhat disappointed. Part of it is probably that I expect the Vim experience to include

1. The full command set, like :set paste and :set foldmethod=indent; and 2. Some basic plugins, like EasyMotion and surround.vim.

Not even evil-mode gets this completely right, but it's close enough to be worth it.