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Re:Why We Terminated Daily Stormer by vacri on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @09:17PM (#15032881)
As a member of neither continent, I find it beyond bizarre that in Europe, they're perfectly capable of determining from context whether someone called a 'nazi' is just having a slur thrown against them, or is actually a follower of the ideology, whereas in America they can't seem to tell the difference. Some yobbo calling a senator a nazi doesn't literally mean the senator is one, whereas people that wave nazi flags, openly promote nazi policies, and wander around giving the nazi salute are a different kettle of fish.

It's like that in America, what things are called is more important than what they are. Obviously there are plenty of Americans perfectly capable of understanding context, but they don't seem to be in control of the political narrative.

Re:Why We Terminated Daily Stormer by sk5t on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @09:46PM (#15033066)
Here in the USA, calling someone a Nazi does not at all suggest they are a member of some well-organized noveau-NSDAP. Even the swastika-waving type are understood to be trying to upset and frighten folks.

In fact, given the American love for sarcasm and hyperbole, and lack of an actual historical Nazi party of any note, it seems to me less likely for one to interpret the label literally.

Re:Why We Terminated Daily Stormer by UnpossibleJim on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @09:40PM (#15033018)
You know, I was going to spit venom back, discussing the European in fighting and greed post WWI for putting those goose stepping morons in a place where normal people thought they held the answers. But, if you can't be trusted to listen to why the Nazis were put into power and not skip to the atrocities, why would I think you'd understand why our politic and society is the way it is.
Re:Why We Terminated Daily Stormer by vacri on Thursday August 17, 2017 @06:06PM (#15041485)
I find that when discussing politics with an American, I want to say "you know what I fucking mean" more than when discussing with a European. Americans tend to attack the surface meaning of what you say rather than the actual meaning.

A clear example of this is if you take fringe idiot politicians who say populist stuff and have zero workable policies. In the UK, they're a fringe political group like UKIP. In the US, one was just voted president. Here was a guy with a famous history of scamming (indeed, he was the poster child for it), making obvious and contradictory promises he couldn't keep even if he wanted to, and with no detail as to how. His whole platform was telling people the superficial stuff they wanted to hear. How did he do? Almost half of the voters individually voted for him, in a strong voter turnout. The only thing missing from his obvious scam was twirling a waxed moustache, and still nearly half of American voters went out voluntarily and voted for him.

Re:Why We Terminated Daily Stormer by UnpossibleJim on Thursday August 17, 2017 @10:48PM (#15043122)
Weird, that doesn't sound like the events of Brexit, at all. Oh well. Have fun being superior, I think I'm done with this pissing contest. You can win. I don't care..... Cheers, I guess =)
Re:Why We Terminated Daily Stormer by 6nf on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @09:41PM (#15033021)
Yea I agree. It's really weird that white supremacists are 'literally nazis' in the eyes of many Americans. Did the meaning of that word change recently?
Re:Why We Terminated Daily Stormer by njarboe on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @10:25PM (#15033282)
I do think that the word "literally" has changed for many people recently and now means "figuratively" to them.
Re:Why We Terminated Daily Stormer by jfk13 on Thursday August 17, 2017 @04:16AM (#15034729)
Indeed it has; even the OED recognises this sense:

"c. colloq. Used to indicate that some (frequently conventional) metaphorical or hyperbolical expression is to be taken in the strongest admissible sense: ‘virtually, as good as’; (also) ‘completely, utterly, absolutely’.

Now one of the most common uses, although often considered irregular in standard English since it reverses the original sense of literally (‘not figuratively or metaphorically’)."

(http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/109061)

The earliest example given, incidentally, is from way back in 1769.

Re:Why We Terminated Daily Stormer by Taniwha on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @11:53PM (#15033695)
I don't really think semantics of literally matter in this case. In Charlottesville people were attending a "Unite the Right" event with actual Nazis .... If you are uniting with Nazis you're becoming a Nazi.