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Re:Why We Terminated Daily Stormer by croon on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @07:46PM (#15032384)
> but one "terrorist attack" (unplanned murder with a vehicle) occurs in a state in the US and suddenly the gloves are off.

> According to the Government Accountability Office of the United States, 73% of violent extremist incidents that resulted in deaths since September 12, 2001 were caused by right wing extremists groups.[41][42]

Re:Why We Terminated Daily Stormer by Banthum on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @08:09PM (#15032521)
73% of incidents?

This is pure sleight of hand meant to deceive.

When incident can be defined arbitrarily and possibly include both a gun massacre and a spray painted swastika as equal events, this stat is incredibly deceptive.

What's the ratio when you count deaths? I'm on mobile but iirc it's about 90% killed by Islamic terrorists.

Re:Why We Terminated Daily Stormer by dragonwriter on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @08:15PM (#15032558)
> What's the ratio when you count deaths? I'm on mobile but iirc it's about 90% killed by Islamic terrorists.

53% Islamist, 47% (other, as Islamist actually fit this description too) far-right, 0% other. (So the ratio is closer to 1:1 than the 9:1 you suggest)

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/aug/16/...

Re:Why We Terminated Daily Stormer by ZoeZoeBee on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @08:50PM (#15032734)
That GAO report for all intents and purposes counts any murder by a person affiliated with a right wing group as an act of terror, including prison beatings, death of a homeless man etc and lumps them in with legitimate acts of terror.

http://www.gao.gov/assets/690/683984.pdf

Re:Why We Terminated Daily Stormer by KirinDave on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @11:40PM (#15033647)
But that standard is consistent across every group, so you can hardly argue it's unfair when it's universally applied.
Re:Why We Terminated Daily Stormer by Banthum on Thursday August 17, 2017 @08:12AM (#15035970)
It is unfair if we're talking about terrorism, because prison murders are not terrorism.

If we're going to talk about murders in a more general sense, you have to start looking at populations and then note that whites in the US are far, far more prevalent than Muslims.

Re:Why We Terminated Daily Stormer by croon on Thursday August 17, 2017 @09:37AM (#15036631)
> If we're going to talk about murders in a more general sense, you have to start looking at populations and then note that whites in the US are far, far more prevalent than Muslims.

But it's not murder in a general sense, it's murder by white supremacists.

> It is unfair if we're talking about terrorism, because prison murders are not terrorism.

Sure it is, if it's political, ie about white supremacy.

Terrorism:

> the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

Re:Why We Terminated Daily Stormer by cyanexttuesday on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @07:52PM (#15032423)
It seems hugely disingenuous to leave sept 11 from that.
Re:Why We Terminated Daily Stormer by cmurf on Thursday August 17, 2017 @02:38AM (#15034276)
9/11 was a foreign in origin. The GAO and the FBI / DHS risk assessments are domestic extremism.