Re:How to Pick Your Next Gig: Evaluating Startups
by capkutay on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @07:28PM
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It's weird he used Zuckerburg and Jobs as archetypal examples and then said
> Be especially wary if there's a trail of people who've worked with the founder in the past, and have felt screwed over.
I feel like I don't even have to elaborate on why this is contradictory.
Re:How to Pick Your Next Gig: Evaluating Startups
by rdtsc on Thursday August 17, 2017 @08:58AM
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I remember a CTO who idolized Jobs. And to make his company successful like Apple he proceeded to act like an asshole, apparently out of all the qualities and personality traits he deemed that to be the most important one. If someone accused him of that behavior he always justified it with "That's what Steve Jobs and look at Apple!". Everyone rolled their eyes but didn't say anything. They just quit and the projects were failed. The CTO was baffled and blamed others not realizing he was the problem.
I also don't get how Jennifer Lawrence fits in any of this. As a counter-example, Chris Pratt, an equally-successful actor, was discovered by a stroke of luck when he was waiting tables in Hawaii.
Listen, I get it. It's cute to come up with pseudo-mathematical models that justify one opinion over another and that might help us make decision-making easier (Startup A vs. Startup B), but allow me to make a controversial point: if you're thinking about working for a startup, don't. Starups traditionally underpay (due to offering equity), often have brogrammer cultures (and no real HR departments), will fire/lay you off at the drop of a hat, and working late hours with little recognition will be expected. The only exception to this rule is if you're one of the first ten-ish employees -- and, obviously, if you're a founder.
For obvious reasons, cap tables highly favor early investors and owners. If you have a high-risk/high-reward type A personality, start a company! If you just want to have a career for a few dozen years and then more-or-less comfortably retire, join Google, or Facebook, or whatever. It makes absolutely no sense to join a startup if you're not even getting one point of equity.
Further, vesting will absolutely screw employees -- with either inflated share costs (if you leave the company) or with unfair lockout schedules (if you ever IPO). Not only that, but equity is utterly opaque: you literally have no idea how much it's actually worth. It's important to understand that startups are a gamble for founders and for investors -- which is exactly why I love startups: it's a perfect mix of skill and luck. With that said, in my opinion, for mid-to-late stage employees, the opportunity cost no longer makes sense. Unless you need a job to pay rent -- I've been there :)