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Re:Trump Strategic and Policy Forum, Which Included IBM and ... by vaishaksuresh on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @03:15PM (#15030289)
The flak that Trump is getting is not because he did not condemn white supremacist groups, it is because he said both groups are same. One was there preaching the idea of owning other people and violence, the second was there to ask for equality.

BLM and KKK may both be violent, but they are being violent for different reasons. You can condemn the violence without equating them. It is like saying Nelson Mandela and Pablo Escobar are same because they fought government and went to prison.

Re:Trump Strategic and Policy Forum, Which Included IBM and ... by Consultant32452 on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @03:18PM (#15030324)
Both groups deserve equal protection under the law and should have the right to assemble. Any violence against either one is equally problematic. The content of their shitty messages is irrelevant.
Re:Trump Strategic and Policy Forum, Which Included IBM and ... by tim333 on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @04:25PM (#15031065)
Both groups get equal protection under the law. That's not what's being discussed here. It's more whether they deserve equal criticism by the media and politicians, and there the message is relevant.
Re:Trump Strategic and Policy Forum, Which Included IBM and ... by vaishaksuresh on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @04:03PM (#15030804)
>The content of their shitty messages is irrelevant

To you, but the president endorsing a group or legitimizing the cause of another is not irrelevant.

Re:Trump Strategic and Policy Forum, Which Included IBM and ... by Consultant32452 on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @04:20PM (#15031008)
Again, it's completely fair criticism to call Trump out for not explicitly naming white supremacists or alt-right or whatever in his initial remarks. What I take issue with is that when it's left leaning groups committing similar acts of violence no one on the left and hardly anyone in the national media explicitly calls out Antifa or BLM as having murderers or violent acts carried out amongst its ranks.

Are we going to associate everyone with their political identity or not? It's unethical to do it only when it's a political identity you disagree with.