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Re:Ask a Female Engineer: Thoughts on the Google Memo by jdoliner on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @07:05PM (#15023549)
Damore did do exactly this. The memo was only ever released in the context of "I'm looking for feedback on this and open to being proven wrong.
Re:Ask a Female Engineer: Thoughts on the Google Memo by jhayward on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @08:43PM (#15024071)
This seems to be a disingenuous take to me.

I don't think you can honestly say publishing it to 10's of thousands of readers constitutes editorial consultation and advice.

Editing and review consists of find a small (one handful) number of trusted friends and mentors whose insight you value, having them read it and make suggestions and comments, perhaps multiple cycles, and only then publish to people you don't know and are hoping to persuade.

It troubles me that this kind of (IMO) disingenuousness shows up again and again in regard to the memo. Not just in this specific comment, but multiple times whenever someone points out a flaw there is always a response of "but he really did do that, you just took it wrong". No, I didn't, and neither did others. He screwed up.

Re:Ask a Female Engineer: Thoughts on the Google Memo by jdoliner on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @09:16PM (#15024233)
As I understand it Damore did seek out feedback from smaller groups of people before releasing it company wide but even if he didn't, who cares? It's very common to publish documents to the entire world asking for review. That's what the RFC processed for digital standards is, that's what arXiv does for academics.

You are the one being disingenuous with this inane critique of the specifics of how Damore sought out feedback for his ideas. He really did do that, he really sought out criticism and continues to do so, you didn't take it wrong though... you're just critiquing it in an inane way. If you disagree with his points, then engage with the points. If the way in which it was written is so deeply flawed then it shouldn't be hard to refute them.

Re:Ask a Female Engineer: Thoughts on the Google Memo by jhayward on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @04:15PM (#15030947)
> As I understand it Damore did seek out feedback from smaller groups of people

Not in the least the same thing as seeking editorial comment from a set of volunteers who know what they're reading. But I can see you are insistent that he did in fact do something he didn't do, which is the definition of disingenuousness.

I wish you good fortune in your future HR counseling sessions.

Re:Ask a Female Engineer: Thoughts on the Google Memo by SamReidHughes on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @09:08PM (#15024188)
Didn't he publish it on one internal message board, which most people generally don't read? That hardly constitutes 10's of thousands or readers.
Re:Ask a Female Engineer: Thoughts on the Google Memo by jdoliner on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @09:17PM (#15024243)
To wit, basically no one did read it, or at least no one responded to it. Until it was leaked to the media and became the media storm we're now witnessing.