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Re:Ask a Female Engineer: Thoughts on the Google Memo by Blackthorn on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @05:24PM (#15022758)
Does your workplace have a very large group of young Earth creationists? Does it go out of its way to recruit them? If so, have you posted a ten page memo that says that the hiring bar has been lowered by that effort?
Re:Ask a Female Engineer: Thoughts on the Google Memo by Method-X on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @06:09PM (#15023158)
Ok, what happened to Demore would be like me working at a company of young Earth creationists who had an internal message board for discussing controversial religious subjects and then firing me because I brought up natural selection. Is it wrong for me to bring up natural selection or is it wrong for my hypothetical company to entrap me?
Re:Ask a Female Engineer: Thoughts on the Google Memo by Blackthorn on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @07:23PM (#15023656)
That's...a surprisingly good simile.

Yes, it would be wrong of you to do that. You remember how in the Big Lebowski, Walter asks The Dude "Well, am I wrong?" and The Dude replies "You're not wrong, Walter. You're an asshole."

You don't want to be Walter.

Re:Ask a Female Engineer: Thoughts on the Google Memo by hueving on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @08:10PM (#15023925)
So are you literally defending the act of firing people who tell the truth?
Re:Ask a Female Engineer: Thoughts on the Google Memo by Blackthorn on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @08:21PM (#15023984)
I'm defending the act of firing people who are assholes. Whether they're telling the truth or not is irrelevant.
Re:Ask a Female Engineer: Thoughts on the Google Memo by hueving on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @12:32PM (#15028841)
The problem is that 'asshole' is completely subjective. You can have someone state a fact that a tiny hurts a tiny group of peoples' feelings and they will think he/she is an asshole. That can't be a fireable offense.

Suggest that a piece of code is un-maintainable and that the group should rebuild it and there is a good chance someone will think that makes you an asshole.

You can't go around firing everyone because some idiot gets triggered.

Re:Ask a Female Engineer: Thoughts on the Google Memo by Blackthorn on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @02:07PM (#15029691)
We're talking about a specific case here where twenty thousand people in the company managed to get pissed off, not one person.
Re:Ask a Female Engineer: Thoughts on the Google Memo by Sleeep on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @10:35PM (#15024550)
I wouldn't even think about bringing up natural selection to my young Earth creationist coworkers. Not touching that with a 10 foot pole, it would only end badly. There's a reason they say don't talk about politics or religion with your coworkers. Harmony is good for getting work done and I go to work to work.

I'm saying that as some who has actually worked with young Earth creationists before.

Re:Ask a Female Engineer: Thoughts on the Google Memo by lieut_data on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @08:31AM (#15026930)
I won't speak for all young Earth creationists, but I don't have a problem with natural selection as a means of selecting from existing genetic diversity within a kind, especially as that process is observable and repeatable around us.

Where I contend with evolutionists is the typical narrative that the existence of natural selection implies a process that creates said (structured, positive) genetic diversity from which to select. This latter process is disputed, not the former.

I would be curious to hear your colleagues perspective.