Re:Feeling bad about feeling bad can make you feel worse
by vanderreeah on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @09:02AM
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Which is precisely why I added loads of caveats - "sometimes (not always)", "a sector of society one respects (whoever that may be)", "(depending on what they are)". I haven't seen anyone in this discussion suggest that one should conform to (in your words) "society at large". That's just a straw-man.
Re:Feeling bad about feeling bad can make you feel worse
by dnh44 on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @06:10AM
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This isn't a debate and my comment wasn't adversarial to yours so I'm struggling to understand how you think I've set up a straw-man to attack your argument. I agreed with your rhetorical question in my first sentence then went on to give an additional opinion.
Re:Feeling bad about feeling bad can make you feel worse
by vanderreeah on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @08:12AM
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Sorry, perhaps I misread your comment. I thought your second paragraph was disagreeing with my assertion that self-censoring is sometimes a valuable act.
Re:Feeling bad about feeling bad can make you feel worse
by dnh44 on Thursday August 17, 2017 @08:20AM
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I wasn't clear at all looking back. I do agree, self-censoring I suppose is what "differentiates us from animals" and what allows us to grow as people.
Thinking about it more the whole issue is incredibly complicated.
Personally I don't think that is a particularly good way to live though. The mind is our only refuge from the rest of society, and to attempt to censor your mind so it's more acceptable to society seems like a really sick thing to me.
To me it doesn't seem that OP is arguing against self-regulation or self-improvement in general, just self-regulation against conforming to society at large. That isn't to say one's own personal values aren't influenced by the values of society.