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Re:Google cancels domain registration for Daily Stormer by the8472 on Monday August 14, 2017 @02:58PM (#15011502)
Considering that IP addresses you get from most service providers are dynamic you need a lookup system for others to be able to access your speech.

> they are well within their rights as private companies to deny service.

Many utilities are also private companies and they they are required to provide service anyway. So one does not strictly follow from the other.

That's why I said DNS providers should be considered utilities. At least the national-level ones. If resellers won't take it you should still be able to get it straight from the ccTLD registrar.

Re:Google cancels domain registration for Daily Stormer by jacquesm on Monday August 14, 2017 @03:05PM (#15011605)
> Considering that IP addresses you get from most service providers are dynamic you need a lookup system for others to be able to access your speech.

Not on the hosting side.

> Many utilities are also private companies and they they are required to provide service anyway.

Yes, but they're not. DNS is a nice-to-have, not a must. Hosting is a must, if you want to make a case then you are going to have an uphill battle where a hosting provider would have to supply and and all paying customers.

Re:Google cancels domain registration for Daily Stormer by the8472 on Monday August 14, 2017 @03:09PM (#15011665)
> Not on the hosting side.

I assumed we were talking about hosting from home, since hosting at some datacenter would again be dealing with additional private entities.

> if you want to make a case then you are going to have an uphill battle where a hosting provider would have to supply and and all paying customers.

I guess that would be an alternative. So either non-discriminatory treatment from hosters or non-discriminatory treatment from ISPs + DNS registrars.

Re:Google cancels domain registration for Daily Stormer by jacquesm on Monday August 14, 2017 @03:15PM (#15011762)
Hosting (anything) from home is against the TOS of almost all providers.
Re:Google cancels domain registration for Daily Stormer by dragonwriter on Monday August 14, 2017 @05:21PM (#15013041)
It may be on a consumer account, but you can get a business account at a residential address from most providers; and in many cases you need to to get the balance of upstream to downstream to you'd want for hosting, even leaving aside ToS concerns.
Re:Google cancels domain registration for Daily Stormer by DougWebb on Monday August 14, 2017 @03:13PM (#15011731)
Many utilities are also private companies and they they are required to provide service anyway.

That's because they're not exactly private companies; they're government-sponsored monopolies. If they weren't, and if there were real competition for the services they provide (like all of the other local businesses), then they wouldn't be required to provide services to any particular customer.

Re:Google cancels domain registration for Daily Stormer by dragonwriter on Monday August 14, 2017 @03:27PM (#15011911)
> Considering that IP addresses you get from most service providers are dynamic you need a lookup system for others to be able to access your speech.

Static IPs are available and if you are hosting content you usually should prefer them.